my post gone?

nutter · 04-18-2006, 05:25 PM

what's with my post about the invasion and counter-bike tactics going?

Tom Yum · 04-18-2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nutter

what's with my post about the invasion and counter-bike tactics going?

in the stink-hole.

Tant01 · 04-18-2006, 08:42 PM

Can I quote Crusty the clown?

There are three reasons to own a gun: to protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals and to keep the King of England out of your face.

LOL

Mike Brewer is a big gun, this is HIS board. Don't mess with him!

nutter · 04-18-2006, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Brewer

I've told you before - post something constructive or don't post at all. Imperialist American Invaders? Come on. You didn't think I was just going to take that, did you?

Mate, I didn't say "American Imperialist Invaders", I said "American Imperialists". That's a completely legitimate label innit.

And I used the word "invade" in an appropriate, accurate and descriptive context right. America has recently invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and looks set to invade Iran.

**Thai Bri** · 04-19-2006, 07:35 AM

Just get off the fence and say what you mean......

I LOVE THIS FORUM!!!

Troll Virus · 04-19-2006, 06:43 PM

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First of all, it isn't correct at all. Imperialist implies that we occupy countries in order to claim them as a part of our Empire. Fact is, every country we have fought for throughout the 20th and beginnings of the 21st century were liberated - not subjugated. We didn't colonize Bosnia, Korea, Germany, Japan, or any of the other places we've fought. We didn't lay claim to land in Northern Africa or the Middle East (though you folks did) after World War I and World War II. For a better idea of imperialism, check your own country's history. Look back to World War I and World War II when the Brits and the French sat down together over tea and croissant and drew nearly every border in the Middle East where there is currently a conflict. Ask your own historians in Britain about Imperialism - how it was the root of American dissatisfaction with British rule and led to our own independence, how it was at the root of the current Arab-Israeli situation, how it defined the conflicts between India and Pakistan - need I go on? See, while you guys were drawing straight lines on maps and dividing people from their homes, America bowed out of the rush to grab land and mandates in that part of the world. You don't find too many American colonies - but colonies were (and are?) a British specialty - innit.

Dunno so much about the present day, but you're right to an extent.
You get more from the History channel, than you do from formal education.
It's hard to lay the finger of blame on any one particular nation though.
Prior to the first world war, with the change from coal fired engines to oil, Germany had the foresight to build a railway into the middle east, and that had more to do with how war started than the assassination of Franz Ferdinand.

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And since you brought up the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan? Mighty convenient that you forgot all the Brits on the ground in those places. I suppose they weren't invading, though. They must have been along for the ride. You know, filming and whatnot. The guns and mortars and artillery - they were all for show, right? Do we need to take a look back into your regal history and discuss some of the invasions and treks your country has taken?

Not for me.
Mostly, the physical aspect is just people doing what they are told to do.
If we can learn from mistakes, rather than just pointing the finger at someone else, we can all move on to a better place?

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This is like your slobbering, mentally retarded argument that the US screwed over Britain during the War. Everyone who's read their second grade history knows that Churchill was the king of all manipulators when it came to pulling the US into the war, and he pulled every string and played every underhanded card he could to make that happen, so don't try to make anyone here believe your bullshit about how we ran you under as a world power.

Well I hope you're not blaming Churchill for Pearl Harbour?

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We flat out saved your asses is what we did. And you're welcome, by the way.

OK, I appreciate this is tainted with personal issues, but;
America, like Britain, had interests other than "saving asses".
That kind of 'hollywoodesque', 'John Wayne' saved the world approach to the topic is kind of after the point.
Britain was/is America's trade link to the rest of the world.

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So when you look at your post, you used neither term in its appropriate context. Further, you showed that once again, nutter has nothing better to do with his time than try to piss people off. It's tiresome. You're tiresome. And I will continue to both delete such idiotic posts AND point out to our fair readers what an ignoramus and asshole you truly are. I don't mind the occasional post designed to get a rise out of people, but it needs to balance out with some content in other places. You're rapidly becoming the human equivalent of the faeces that crazy people spread around on the walls of their little padded rooms. You stink, you're no fun to look at, and even cleaning up after you is more work than it's worth. Do yourself a favor and get back on your anti-depressants and ritalin like the doctor told you, stop worrying about the fact that your testes haven't dropped yet, and go play in traffic for a while. We'll keep a spot warm for you when you get back, you imperialist, you.

LOL, a man after my own heart.

GQchris · 04-19-2006, 07:52 PM

You post like a jackass mate, that's why innit , LOL

nutter · 04-19-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Brewer

First of all, ////blahblahblah/// You stink, you're no fun to look at, and even cleaning up after you is more work than it's worth. Do yourself a favor and get back on your anti-depressants and ritalin like the doctor told you, stop worrying about the fact that your testes haven't dropped yet, and go play in traffic for a while. We'll keep a spot warm for you when you get back, you imperialist, you.

Hold your horses mate, why are you assuming that I don't think Britrain has been Imperialistic in the past, hell we had an empire. That has no bearing on America being imperialistic. Like many great past empires, not least that of Alexander the Great, modern America prefers to rule by proxy government and behind the scenes financial control (Marshall plan etc) rather than direct rule; that doesn't any less of an empire. The USA was blatantly colonial in it's expansion westwards across north America and again with regards to the Philipines and Cuba. Your country too has an imperial streak and don't you forget it mate.

The term "American imperialist" is therefore completely legitimate.

And "invade" is a completely appropriate term also innit. What else should we use, "regime change", "forcibly relocating"? No two ways about it, America has invaded both Iraq and Afghanistan right.

Troll Virus · 04-19-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nutter

No two ways about it, America has invaded both Iraq and Afghanistan right.

Using you're own terminology, they're not alone.

Tant01 · 04-19-2006, 08:03 PM

"Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those who did not return."
Colin Powell

Troll Virus · 04-19-2006, 08:11 PM

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"Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those who did not return."
Colin Powell

That's kinda sick Tant.
Propoganda for the media.
No offence, but that doesn't do justice to anyone at all.

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Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,123 Groans: 0 Groaned at 14 Times in 9 Posts	Can I quote Crusty the clown? There are three reasons to own a gun: to protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals and to keep the King of England out of your face. LOL Mike Brewer is a big gun, this is HIS board. Don't mess with him! __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

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GQchris Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alameda County, California Posts: 767 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	You post like a jackass mate, that's why innit , LOL __________________ Owner of a lonely heart.. much better than a owner of a broken heart...

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Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,123 Groans: 0 Groaned at 14 Times in 9 Posts	"Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those who did not return." Colin Powell __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

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