rolling

treelizard · 05-02-2006, 12:50 PM

Which arts besides aiki and taijutsu teach you how to fall properly? I know there's a bit of rolling in muay thai (or was it BJJ?)...anything else?

Also does anybody know what the differences are between different styles of rolling? Or are they all pretty much the same?

Tom Yum · 05-02-2006, 12:58 PM

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Which arts besides aiki and taijutsu teach you how to fall properly? I know there's a bit of rolling in muay thai (or was it BJJ?)...anything else?

Also does anybody know what the differences are between different styles of rolling? Or are they all pretty much the same?

Judo, Japanese Jiujitsu, Hapkido, Hwarangdo, Kuksool - to name a few.

treelizard · 05-02-2006, 01:16 PM

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Judo, Japanese Jiujitsu, Hapkido, Hwarangdo, Kuksool - to name a few.

Wow, okay, this'll be easier than I thought, to find an art where I get to roll.

I've seen grapplers and ninjas and even some aiki guys roll, and it all looks the same to me. Is there a distinction between rolling "styles" of all these arts, and the ones you mentioned, Tom?

jubaji · 05-02-2006, 01:26 PM

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Which arts besides aiki and taijutsu teach you how to fall properly?

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Skydiving.

treelizard · 05-02-2006, 01:35 PM

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Skydiving.

LOL!!!

But does skydiving teach you weapons?

Sagacious Lu · 05-02-2006, 01:42 PM

Kung fu spends a lot of time on rolling and break falls. In all seriousness though that was something that playing football drilled into me. When you get hit at a dead sprint by someone that out-weighs you by 100+ pounds you either figure out how to roll with it or you get hurt. It's a little bit trickier if you're holding a weapon though.

treelizard · 05-02-2006, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sagacious Lu

Kung fu spends a lot of time on rolling and break falls. In all seriousness though that was something that playing football drilled into me. When you get hit at a dead sprint by someone that out-weighs you by 100+ pounds you either figure out how to roll with it or you get hurt. It's a little bit trickier if you're holding a weapon though.

Which styles kung fu?

I have a hard time with it, with not immediately tensing up. And I tried some Muay Thai rolls in the park with a friend and had a hard time keeping my rolls centered, aligned, tight. Tried for about a half hour and then moved on to other techniques...

Something to work on.

Tom Yum · 05-02-2006, 01:58 PM

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LOL!!!

But does skydiving teach you weapons?

The 82nd airborne does

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Tom Yum · 05-02-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by treelizard

I've seen grapplers and ninjas and even some aiki guys roll, and it all looks the same to me. Is there a distinction between rolling "styles" of all these arts, and the ones you mentioned, Tom?

From what I've seen, its identical between styles.

There's a difference between rolling and breakfalling, though.

Rolling is more appropriate if you are thrown clear or fall.

Breakfalling is better if you're tossed, sweeped, slammed etc.

Sagacious Lu · 05-02-2006, 03:06 PM

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Which styles kung fu?

I have a hard time with it, with not immediately tensing up. And I tried some Muay Thai rolls in the park with a friend and had a hard time keeping my rolls centered, aligned, tight. Tried for about a half hour and then moved on to other techniques...

Something to work on.

Shaolin Hung Chuan def. does, although it's a safe bet that any style that uses a lot of chin na will. We also did a good amount of it in Shaolin Kempo Karate.

Tant01 · 05-02-2006, 03:10 PM

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Which arts besides aiki and taijutsu teach you how to fall properly? I know there's a bit of rolling in muay thai (or was it BJJ?)...anything else?

Also does anybody know what the differences are between different styles of rolling? Or are they all pretty much the same?

Judo (infosite) has some good stuff on Falling/ ukemi...

Defence against impacts with terrain, ROLLING? Or just tumbling and acrobatics? I'm going with breakfalls and Ukemi here;

The Study of Falling
http://www.judoinfo.com/falling.htm

Understanding Ukemi
http://www.judoinfo.com/lee.htm

Falling Techniques of Judo
http://www.judoinfo.com/ukemi.htm

Don't know how this relates to "rolling" but turnouts are good...

treelizard · 05-02-2006, 03:14 PM

Thanks!!!!

So judo rolling is loud and big and aikido rolling is soft and quiet?

Tant01 · 05-02-2006, 03:43 PM

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Thanks!!!!

So judo rolling is loud and big and aikido rolling is soft and quiet?

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I must be losing it... damn one track mind!

treelizard · 05-02-2006, 03:50 PM

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I must be losing it... damn one track mind!

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treelizard · 05-04-2006, 09:08 PM

Uh, does anybody have any video footage of different styles of rolling? Would like to see the difference...

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