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Old 05-17-2006, 04:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Doctors say knives are too pointed
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.

The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault - but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.


In contrast, a pointed long blade pierces the body like "cutting into a ripe melon".

The use of knives is particularly worrying amongst adolescents, say the researchers, reporting that 24% of 16-year-olds have been shown to carry weapons, primarily knives.

The study found links between easy access to domestic knives and violent assault are long established.

French laws in the 17th century decreed that the tips of table and street knives be ground smooth.

A century later, forks and blunt-ended table knives were introduced in the UK in an effort to reduce injuries during arguments in public eating houses.

The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.

"The Home Office is looking for ways to reduce knife crime.

"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect."

Government response

Home Office spokesperson said there were already extensive restrictions in place to control the sale and possession of knives.

"The law already prohibits the possession of offensive weapons in a public place, and the possession of knives in public without good reason or lawful authority, with the exception of a folding pocket knife with a blade not exceeding three inches.

"Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so.

"An individual has to demonstrate that he had good reason to possess a knife, for example for fishing, other sporting purposes or as part of his profession (e.g. a chef) in a public place.

"The manufacture, sale and importation of 17 bladed, pointed and other offensive weapons have been banned, in addition to flick knives and gravity knives."

A spokesperson for the Association of Chief Police Officers said: "ACPO supports any move to reduce the number of knife related incidents, however, it is important to consider the practicalities of enforcing such changes."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
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Next year they're gonna ban fingernails....from the looks of the things they already outlawed teeth.
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As the 19th-century jurist James Paterson remarked in his Commentaries on the Liberty of the Subject and the Laws of England Relating to the Security of the Person:
"In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur."

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A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.



The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.
I'd like to see a top Chef carve a Chicken or a Turkey with a short knife.
Why do I have to live in a country run by stupid people?

I met an old acquaintance of mine a couple of weeks ago.
Hadn't seen him for about five years, but last I heard, he was living with some lass who was a bit of a 'bunny boiler', who'd flung his gear out of the window (they lived 22nd floor).
I asked him if he was still with her, and apparently she tried to stab him with a Kitchen knife.

No denying it happens, but plugging your toaster into the mains with a long extension and dropping it in your loved ones bathtub is just so much..........neater?
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Why do I have to live in a country run by stupid people?
I just want to know if you eat marmite on toast.
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I just want to know if you eat marmite on toast.
I don't.
I don't like it, it's too rich for me.
My mother does though.

I was having this conversation with a friend on the East Coast of the US not so long ago, but I gather it's really expensive in the states, like $6.95 for a small jar he said.

It's one of those things you either like or you don't, with no middle ground.
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I'm with you. I don't like the stuff either. With toast, give me a good Southern USA Apple Butter. Mmmm, mmmm, good.
Apple Butter?
New one on me.
Sounds nice.

'Rum' Butter though.....
My Gran never gave over the recipe before she passed on, but boy was that good.
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Yeah I once accepted a dare to eat marmite in exchange for this Scottish/Scouser dude eating peanut butter and "jam". He took one bite, added some marmite to the peanut butter (which he spread on ridiculously thinly) and then finished the sandwich.
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Yeah I once accepted a dare to eat marmite in exchange for this Scottish/Scouser dude eating peanut butter and "jam". He took one bite, added some marmite to the peanut butter (which he spread on ridiculously thinly) and then finished the sandwich.
The taste is so incredibly strong on Marmite, from what I gather, the trick is to spread it as fine as possible.
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I'm with you. I don't like the stuff either. With toast, give me a good Southern USA Apple Butter. Mmmm, mmmm, good.

EVERYONE knows the best apples grow in the north!

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The taste is so incredibly strong on Marmite, from what I gather, the trick is to spread it as fine as possible.
Yeah, but he spread his PEANUT BUTTER like that, too!
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Yeah, but he spread his PEANUT BUTTER like that, too!
Never been a fan of Peanut Butter on bread, though I sometimes use it as a secret ingredient in stir frys.
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Can you make pasties? Those are damn good.
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Can you make pasties? Those are damn good.
And damn easy to make too.
Best ones are from leftover meals.

Scrape the pots out, jam it in a bit of short crust pastry, brush with beaten egg, vent and bake
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And damn easy to make too.
Best ones are from leftover meals.

Scrape the pots out, jam it in a bit of short crust pastry, brush with beaten egg, vent and bake
No way, it's harder than that! I know, I've made them three times and only came out once! That perfect looking crust.
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No way, it's harder than that! I know, I've made them three times and only came out once! That perfect looking crust.
What can I say?
Mine work out good, come on over.
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