Conscientious objectors the real heroes?

nutter · 05-22-2006, 03:25 PM

How do you -*persons*- feel about the moral dilemma that faces many soldiers sent over to the invasion of Iraq to take part in a war that they don’t believe is just, to kill people who are defending their country from foreign invaders, and all for a president they didn’t vote for. Are they cowards for not standing up for their moral beliefs?

Sagacious Lu · 05-22-2006, 05:06 PM

I think you should rephrase it for him

GQchris · 05-22-2006, 05:09 PM

conscientious objectors are just useless pieces of dog squeeze.. this just sounds like another insignificant leftist diatribe..

nutter · 05-22-2006, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Brewer

Would you care to rephrase this?

What bit don't you like mate? It's a legit question innit.

Ok, I'll remove the joke calling you all ladies.

nutter · 05-22-2006, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GQchris

conscientious objectors are just useless pieces of dog squeeze...

Why's that mate? Come on, explain your viewpoint to us without just throwing insults about mate.

nutter · 05-22-2006, 05:45 PM

Fair play mate. But do you not agree that some people joining the US military did not have invading Iraq in mind when they swore to defend USA. And so they may find themselves in a position where they are sent to a war which they think is unjust right. And hell of a lot of people join up because there's sod all work for them in civvy street right. Saying that soldiers should follow orders blindly is a cop out innit. It's shifting the blame, not taking responsibility for your own actions right. What do you say to that mate?

BoarSpear · 05-22-2006, 05:54 PM

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knifethrower · 05-22-2006, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutter

Why's that mate? Come on, explain your viewpoint to us without just throwing insults about mate.

OK I'll give it a shot. Think of it this way Dumbass.....

(Damn...harder then I thought it would be)

GQchris · 05-22-2006, 06:14 PM

nutter · 05-22-2006, 06:17 PM

No mate, that bird doesn't reflect the flavour of the Iraqi invasion does she. This one is more in keeping with the topic innit.

GQchris · 05-22-2006, 06:19 PM

monday bored

BoarSpear · 05-22-2006, 06:22 PM

Nice pics dude, but read her shirt

you're gettin a little nipple happy though

dont ruin a good thing.

BoarSpear · 05-22-2006, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GQchris

whoops my bad, uploaded the wrong pic... that was my Hawaii trip, LMAO! sorry

if you were unlucky enough Not to see that, PM me and I'll send you the pic

you were on vacation with Midwest Melissa

nutter · 05-22-2006, 11:33 PM

So if you were ordered to shoot looters in New Orleans you wouldn't have the moral fibre to say "No, I'm not going to do that"? You must be so brave to blindly follow orders mate. As for the recent invasion being legal, well that's a matter of opinion so yet another cop out innit.

It's a bit materialistic to say that a soldier's duty dictated by his paycheck is greater than his moral duty as a citizen of the world innit.

nutter · 05-23-2006, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Brewer

What about the moral issue in accepting pay, bonuses, and all that stuff from an organization you are morally against? What does it make you if you are willing to take money, medical care, educational benefits, housing, food, school for our children, retirement, and career training from an organization that you find reprehensible?

There you go weighing moral obligataions bought by material consideration against moral obligations to society again.

The war in Iraq was declared illegal by the UN right. And re your New Orleans cop out answer, I asked IF you were ordered, I didn't say he did order it. IF he did, you wouldn't have any moral problems doing it? Bang bang, nothing like the smell of dead civilian in the morning hey mate.

05-22-2006, 03:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
nutter Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 567 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Conscientious objectors the real heroes? How do you -persons- feel about the moral dilemma that faces many soldiers sent over to the invasion of Iraq to take part in a war that they don’t believe is just, to kill people who are defending their country from foreign invaders, and all for a president they didn’t vote for. Are they cowards for not standing up for their moral beliefs? __________________ My kind of life

05-22-2006, 05:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sagacious Lu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Liangshan Marsh Posts: 1,062 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think you should rephrase it for him __________________

05-22-2006, 05:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
GQchris Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alameda County, California Posts: 767 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	conscientious objectors are just useless pieces of dog squeeze.. this just sounds like another insignificant leftist diatribe.. __________________ Owner of a lonely heart.. much better than a owner of a broken heart...

05-22-2006, 05:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
nutter Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 567 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fair play mate. But do you not agree that some people joining the US military did not have invading Iraq in mind when they swore to defend USA. And so they may find themselves in a position where they are sent to a war which they think is unjust right. And hell of a lot of people join up because there's sod all work for them in civvy street right. Saying that soldiers should follow orders blindly is a cop out innit. It's shifting the blame, not taking responsibility for your own actions right. What do you say to that mate? __________________ My kind of life

05-22-2006, 05:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
BoarSpear Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,729 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	.......................................... Attached Images

05-22-2006, 06:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
GQchris Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alameda County, California Posts: 767 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok __________________ Owner of a lonely heart.. much better than a owner of a broken heart...

05-22-2006, 06:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
nutter Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 567 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	No mate, that bird doesn't reflect the flavour of the Iraqi invasion does she. This one is more in keeping with the topic innit. __________________ My kind of life

05-22-2006, 06:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
GQchris Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alameda County, California Posts: 767 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	*sigh* monday bored __________________ Owner of a lonely heart.. much better than a owner of a broken heart...

05-22-2006, 06:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
BoarSpear Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,729 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nice pics dude, but read her shirt you're gettin a little nipple happy though dont ruin a good thing.

05-22-2006, 11:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
nutter Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 567 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	So if you were ordered to shoot looters in New Orleans you wouldn't have the moral fibre to say "No, I'm not going to do that"? You must be so brave to blindly follow orders mate. As for the recent invasion being legal, well that's a matter of opinion so yet another cop out innit. It's a bit materialistic to say that a soldier's duty dictated by his paycheck is greater than his moral duty as a citizen of the world innit. __________________ My kind of life

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