Chinese MA Practitioner 5 Times World Champion in Muay Thai

Rudolphuss · 11-12-2003, 12:43 PM

Hi, I just found this cool website on kickboxing and martial arts. In this article there's an interview with 5 times Muay Thai world champion Martin and his Chinese Sifu. What do you guys think about the interview, and has anyone seen any of his fights? I always wondered what a Kung Fu Vs Muay Thai would fight looks like. Gladly anticipating your responses.

http://crane.50megs.com/index6t.htm

FUH-Q · 11-12-2003, 01:33 PM

this is BS. first, read those belts.......for one, there in english, why would the thai make the writing on their belts english, two only one of those belts is for muay thai, the others are weapons. three, look at the size of that guy and look at the size of thai fighters, do you honestly believe he would qualify for anything other than heavyweight.

there is an interesting story ive heard from a few thai people. apparently five of the top chinese kung fu fighters came to thailand and fought five MT fighters. the total time for all the fights was just a little over 5 minutes and all of the chinese fighters were KOed. im not positive on how true this is but ive heard it from a few thai people, maybe some of you more knowlagable MT posters could help me out.

SOUTHPAW · 11-12-2003, 01:51 PM

Yeah, that dude looks like a poser to me too...and those belts look like he bought em' at Wal-Mart or something. Looks like about my weight class, maybe I could fight that chump and then I could be champion of nothing too!! hahaha

Rudolphuss · 11-12-2003, 02:01 PM

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three, look at the size of that guy and look at the size of thai fighters, do you honestly believe he would qualify for anything other than heavyweight.

Well, if you look at this picture, he's not really that big. He's probably around 5'9. He might look big because his Sifu is short.

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there is an interesting story ive heard from a few thai people. apparently five of the top chinese kung fu fighters came to thailand and fought five MT fighters. the total time for all the fights was just a little over 5 minutes and all of the chinese fighters were KOed. im not positive on how true this is but ive heard it from a few thai people, maybe some of you more knowlagable MT posters could help me out.

Yeah, the author also documented this: Almost all the Kung Fu Vs Muay Thai fights end in the first round with the Kung Fu guy knocked out.
http://crane.50megs.com/index6r.htm
http://crane.50megs.com/index6d.htm

In addition, Martin combined traditional Kung Fu with Muay Thai.
http://crane.50megs.com/index6q.htm

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However, on another side of the Earth, another Chinese martial artist had already shown the way. The famous Master Su, founder of the Pachi Tanglang MA Institute provides a good counter example of how Traditional Kungfu can be combined effectively with modern kickboxing sports. The Venezuelan Fighter that he trained up to fight in Thailand a few years ago achieved 5 World Muaythai Championship titles in 3 weight categories! It was a world record no less. He was able to do it because he had a solid base in Baji & Tanglang (Mantis) training. With these 2 traditional arts as his roots, he went on to train in Muaythai, in order to get use to their style of fighting. Adopting both the tradtional & the modern for fighting in the Ring, just look at the fantastic results of such a combination.

**Thai Bri** · 11-12-2003, 04:01 PM

Well, there are dozens of "World Champions" about. May be he is just the "World Champion" of an organisation that has about 7 members, including the cleaner.

Rudolphuss · 11-12-2003, 08:28 PM

Thanks for all the educated opinions.

Khun Kao · 11-12-2003, 10:00 PM

Another thing to closely examine is the fact that he has a belt listing MULTIPLE WEIGHT CLASSES.

NO FIGHTING ORGANIZATION DOES THAT!!!!! There is a seperate belt for each weight category!!!!

Look, the guy may actually be legit. You never know, but him posing with those belts means SQUAT!!!!! As someone else mentioned, he could have had those belts made anywhere.

An example, the title belt that I won in 1994 was never actually given to me. I was only allowed to pose with it for some photos after the event, then I had to turn it back over to the fight organization. I never lost the title to anyone, but was never allowed to keep my belt.

My instructor bought me a replica of the belt from Thailand (Lumpinee Stadium-style belt) which I now have. The belt I currently have is near perfect replica of the one that I won, but its still a replica. So who knows, maybe this guy had something similar happen to him?

But, its OBVIOUS that this guy is NOT a champ from Lumpinee or Radjadamnern Stadiums. Muay Thai in Thailand has many, many levels of competition. He could very possibly have been a contender is some backlick region in Northern Thailand (but I doubt it) or on some international circuit (most likely).

Khun Kao

Toudiyama[NL] · 11-13-2003, 02:07 AM

these are the cheapest lookin belts I've ever seen

V1... what is that, something like K1 but so small nobody knows it?

I'm gona start a world org that organises championships in all arts, only people at MY gyms can be a member

PS that one dude in the white jacket, looks like he has been smoking pot or something

11-12-2003, 12:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rudolphuss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose Posts: 81 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Chinese MA Practitioner 5 Times World Champion in Muay Thai Hi, I just found this cool website on kickboxing and martial arts. In this article there's an interview with 5 times Muay Thai world champion Martin and his Chinese Sifu. What do you guys think about the interview, and has anyone seen any of his fights? I always wondered what a Kung Fu Vs Muay Thai would fight looks like. Gladly anticipating your responses. http://crane.50megs.com/index6t.htm

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Khun Kao Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 847 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Another thing to closely examine is the fact that he has a belt listing MULTIPLE WEIGHT CLASSES. NO FIGHTING ORGANIZATION DOES THAT!!!!! There is a seperate belt for each weight category!!!! Look, the guy may actually be legit. You never know, but him posing with those belts means SQUAT!!!!! As someone else mentioned, he could have had those belts made anywhere. An example, the title belt that I won in 1994 was never actually given to me. I was only allowed to pose with it for some photos after the event, then I had to turn it back over to the fight organization. I never lost the title to anyone, but was never allowed to keep my belt. My instructor bought me a replica of the belt from Thailand (Lumpinee Stadium-style belt) which I now have. The belt I currently have is near perfect replica of the one that I won, but its still a replica. So who knows, maybe this guy had something similar happen to him? But, its OBVIOUS that this guy is NOT a champ from Lumpinee or Radjadamnern Stadiums. Muay Thai in Thailand has many, many levels of competition. He could very possibly have been a contender is some backlick region in Northern Thailand (but I doubt it) or on some international circuit (most likely). Khun Kao __________________ Kru Brooks C. Miller GCA MuayThai Board of Advisors USMTA Director of DC, MD, and VA http://khunkao.com/

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Toudiyama[NL] Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Zaandam, Netherlands Posts: 1,389 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	these are the cheapest lookin belts I've ever seen V1... what is that, something like K1 but so small nobody knows it? I'm gona start a world org that organises championships in all arts, only people at MY gyms can be a member PS that one dude in the white jacket, looks like he has been smoking pot or something __________________

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11-12-2003, 01:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
FUH-Q Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 54 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	this is BS. first, read those belts.......for one, there in english, why would the thai make the writing on their belts english, two only one of those belts is for muay thai, the others are weapons. three, look at the size of that guy and look at the size of thai fighters, do you honestly believe he would qualify for anything other than heavyweight. there is an interesting story ive heard from a few thai people. apparently five of the top chinese kung fu fighters came to thailand and fought five MT fighters. the total time for all the fights was just a little over 5 minutes and all of the chinese fighters were KOed. im not positive on how true this is but ive heard it from a few thai people, maybe some of you more knowlagable MT posters could help me out.

11-12-2003, 01:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
SOUTHPAW Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Dark Side of the Moon Posts: 136 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah, that dude looks like a poser to me too...and those belts look like he bought em' at Wal-Mart or something. Looks like about my weight class, maybe I could fight that chump and then I could be champion of nothing too!! hahaha

11-12-2003, 04:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,423 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, there are dozens of "World Champions" about. May be he is just the "World Champion" of an organisation that has about 7 members, including the cleaner.

11-12-2003, 08:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rudolphuss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose Posts: 81 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for all the educated opinions.

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