Panagiotis97

i have seen thai boxers "rubbing" a bottle or wooden stick on their shins to make them harder, how does that work?
does it make the bones harder or it does cut off the nerves and you dont feel anything? someone me told thats what happens? is it true?

retired

Yes it does deaden the nerves but it's a total waste of time as it doesnt toughen up the shins so you get no feedback.

Just work up your kicks to eventually kick the heavy bag with your shins, while you build up your strength & power on the heavy bag then & ONLY then does your nerves start to deaden from repeated impact.

So dont bother with old wives tales as they dont do this in Thailand as they just kick all day & hard.

Thai Bri

Isn't that like a dog giving advice on table manners?

You broke your shin in half! Wadda you know!

c0bra

would it hurt to roll bottles down your shins and kick the heavy bag?

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Thai Bri

What? At the same time? I guess it would, as you'd smash the bottle wouldn't you?

c0bra

i meen to kick the heavy bag and then go roll bottles over your shin

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retired

Stop doing that bri!!!!!!!!!
You know i was unlucky dude, that was a bad year for me & it was going to be my last but one fight , but as you know that never happened.

retired

My shin never broke when i kicked that dude out of the ring .

Anyway im fat like you now so i just sit on them now .

S.Anucha

Panagiotis97, as retired said but remember to have a good daily calcium intake, you can whack you shins with hard objects and it does deaden the nerves but in a very bad way.

when you hit a heavy leather bag the heavy leather bag is heavy and hard but not as dense or as hard as your shin bone but still enough to toughen you up, you dont damage your shin bone when hitting a heavy bag but you will damage your shin bone if you strike it with something harder than your shin bone, when you shin block a roundkick that is the only time you really want to risk the injuries and shock that will occur after such strikes, you dont want to start whacking your shin bone with a bottle, thats stupid, it does kill the nerves but doesnt toughen the actual shin bone itself.

I disagree with many peoples thoughts that the shin bone doesnt toughen, my shins have got lots of lumps on them and a sort of soft cement like crap under the skin which is on the shin bone, this happens when kicking the heavy bag or pads for a long time but appears very easily when striking another human being. I aint a doctor but I done a bit of research and it seems the body recognises that there is a lot of stress being placed on that part of the body, the shin bone sends out little signals to the brain to tell the brain to send more calcium and the crap that builds up bone to that area of the shin, it then calcifies and the bone does toughen. My teacher in Thailand has a shin bone that covers his entire front, where I would have soft muscle he has bone! that is a perfect example of calcification. It starts of soft, then graduaully through time it grows and hardens grows and hardens, thats what you want to be aiming for not killing nerves by hitting bottles or bars over you shins, that is dumb. Just be patient and kick heavy bags.

barspinmatt

S. Anucha has the best words I have read on this subject to date.

I have only been training in Muay Thai for a few months, but brought the technique of kicking from TQD. But just having a good form and a powerfull kick will not make the shin harder as I found when I connected shin to shin with my instructor. I think the only words to describe that feeling are, Vomit, light head, and a walk that would put the shivers up john wayne lol.

But after repeated kicks on a heavy bag it just stings a little whenever I connect to a blocking shin as apposed to dropping me. But I would like to point out from a personal overview, that when my kicks connect within the ring (ie a real fight, with a ref ect) they don't hurt me at all. After that however is another story, and I'm laid up for a couple of days. I suppose I would put this down to Adrenaline, and thank god it stops the pain when fighting!

I think trying to kill off your nerve endings is a bit dodgey, pain happens for a reason, and a level of controll can be gained fairly quickly if you have a strong mind. But only repeated use will toughen them up and make them as wide, vitamin enriched, and as strong as a thai's. But this is only my opinion, also my instructors words of wisdom. And I'm not going to argue with the British Lightwieght champ.....would you?

ThrowinBows

Thinking about taking apart my old everlast heavy bag and filling the bottom with sand. What do yall think?

fcokeefe

Sand and rags would be better. You get moving on that bag and forget for just one kick that there is pure sand at the bottom and you won't be training till the cast comes off. Make it where it gives alittle, pure sand would be like kicking concrete after it settles.

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William Eriepa

Go to a tire place, and pick up some rubbish tires, cut the side bits out (the parts without the metal wire), and get them shredded. I found shredded tires to work wonders, it's reasonably solid and hard, and perfect for conditioning your shins. Just make sure you have that carpet liner though. And a good strong leather bag

Also at the MTB gym here we have a sand bag, but the damn thing keeps getting rips in em. I've seen the same in other gyms too.

bjjrookie

When I was studying Muay Thai, I asked my instructor about rubbing a glass bottle on your shins. He said not to do that because it will make your shins dull. You want your shins sharp, not rounded. So just kick the bags, theres no shortcut.

William Eriepa

Hmm, interesting. I'll have to ask my trainer about that. I don't see how though, kicking the heavy bag, will make you shins "sharp". And I would think any conditioning would make your bones more rounder than they already were.