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Old 12-08-2003, 06:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey all, just wondering how easy it is to break the shin bone. I have zero problem with pain tolerance when i work on my bag, the bottom part is pretty much like concrete. I love to train on it, but sometimes i get scared i might break my shins. Just wondering how easy it is, if anyone has had this happen or heard of it happening. If it usually depends on the person, im a pretty strongly built guy, and i always make sure to get a good dose of vitaminc c and calcium a day. Thanks all

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Old 12-08-2003, 07:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Do a search on posts made by retired . He effectively retired from tournament fighting after breaking his. He has pics and everything........
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Old 12-09-2003, 06:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have seen this happen in a little MPEG Clip. It was a bit of a strange thing to happen (well that's what I thought at the time) and I don't really have an opinion on wether or not it's easy or hard to break your shins. But I'm sure it's a genetic thing really ie strong or weak bones, and even so I bet lot's of training can prevent it. I'm open for debate on this subject, but I had the same thoughts on this as yourself. I think it's a very rare and horrific thing to happen, and I pray I can never kick harder than my bones can take! Very un-likeley though ha ha.
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Old 12-17-2003, 12:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yep it's easy when you know how, took me about 9 seconds to do mine (a record anyone).

How's it hanging Bri? still picking on the vulnerable?

Just train hard, lots of calcium, running & retire when you should (not like me).

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Old 12-17-2003, 12:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hey all, just wondering how easy it is to break the shin bone. I have zero problem with pain tolerance when i work on my bag, the bottom part is pretty much like concrete. I love to train on it, but sometimes i get scared i might break my shins. Just wondering how easy it is, if anyone has had this happen or heard of it happening. If it usually depends on the person, im a pretty strongly built guy, and i always make sure to get a good dose of vitaminc c and calcium a day. Thanks all

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That's probably quite hard to quantify, but apparently bone is many times stronger than reinforced concrete! -so I think you should be ok unless you have some kind of bone disorder!
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Try this. Kick reinforced concrete as hard as you can with your shin. Ring us from the hospital to let us know how it went.
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Try it, you'll be fine, don't listen to Brian.
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After seeing the post I thought I would register. When I was in college I had my Fib/Tib broken in a TKD point competition. It was the first kick of the match and it was a low illegal kick for the competition rules.

During the long rehab period I spoke to my doctor who did sports medicine work for the KC Chiefs, KU and K-State about some of the possible reasons it broke so easily.

At the time (and a slack college schedule) I was running four miles a day six days a week (without changing out my running shoes with excess milage), had a poor college diet, doing martial arts training four days a week two hours a day and there was the possibility I had a stress fracture.

I was basically setting myself up for the injury by not eating right and over training. Without the proper diet your body starts to feed off other sources in your body including muscle and bone(Causing the stress fractures and other problems).

I got into Muay Thai and the FMA a couple of years later and loved the training methods and conditioning as well as the stress they put on proper diet. Nothing I was taught supported shin conditioning on anything but pads and the reason why many of the Thai fighters (at least in Thailand) have such well conditioned shin was becasue they started at such an early age they began their conditioning early in life while they were still developing.

Since my training in MT I have not had any reoccuring problems with my Fib/Tib except for bruised shins.
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Sounds like some good advice there mate
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the reason why many of the Thai fighters (at least in Thailand) have such well conditioned shin was becasue they started at such an early age they began their conditioning early in life while they were still developing

I think that is actually worse for your bones, starting at an earlly age. Cant remember where I read but they have more problems with their shin bones than people who start when their bone growth has stopped. Correct me if I am wrong, I am sure though.
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I believe you are right. I was referring more to calcium deposits etc...I think itis all in how you look at the conditioning. For example, I can't remember his name but he is often featured in many of the documentaries on martial arts (His style is the Eagle Claw kung fu I believe). He claims to beat his knuckles on a piece of sheet metal "1000" times a day. His knuckles are so caloused and conditioned they almost stick out a 1/4" inch. To me that is too much, but to him that is what he wants.

I was recently watching a show on the DIscovery Channel called Extreme Martial arts and they followed several styles and discussed the mechanics and conditioning of those who do breaking. They used a lot of different methods to study what muscles were used to execute certain techniques and the effects onthe body. The claim was the body reacts to the breaking by building up calcium in the bones and making the bones stronger. The joints were like shock absorbers retaining some of the shock.

Theories change so quickly in medicine it is hard to keep track of the latest.
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Hey all, just wondering how easy it is to break the shin bone.
Virtually impossible. You have to be trying really really hard. Kick away like htere's no tomorrow!
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