Go Back   Deluxe Martial Arts Forums > Martial Arts > Thaiboxing and Kickboxing

Thaiboxing and Kickboxing The official discussion forum for the Thaiboxing Association of the USA. Discuss the latest training methods and events in the world of Thaiboxing and Kickboxing.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 01-22-2004, 04:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
Premiere Member
 
HuSanYan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 641
HuSanYan is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to HuSanYan
Question what would you do or think when MT instructor says this to you?

I am wondering if anyone has had the following situation (or similar) occur.

I recently started some private 1 on 1 lessons (MT), have had 2 so far and have really enjoyed them, however, when I 1st arranged the lessons I asked the instructor when he was available for 1 lesson during a weekday evening and 1 on a Saturday afternoon, he told me "anytime, can fit in with your requirements" etc. I was SO happy to hear that.

I had a lesson yesterday evening and after it he asks if i can go to the office to chat about their 'plans for me', so in I go and then he tells me that due to them being so busy they want me to join a class that they have going with around 3 or 4 others, he said it was a reasonably advanced class and so on, he also showed me the money amounts with payment options (either monthly or a one off annual payment).

Now this says several possibilities to me, none of which do anything for my confidence :-

1) he doesnt like me or thinks that i am of such a bad standard that he cant stand to expend the extra energy that teaching someone 1 on 1 takes.
2) he simply cannot be bothered (admittedly when I initially enquired, he did tell me that they prefer not to do private lessons because they take very much more energy).
3) maybe he didnt realise that the gym has a more busy timetable and he is needed for more group lessons, but why would he have told me initially that he was around "anytime" for private lessons?
4) its a money thing

Now I am paying £25 (around $45 equivalent) per hour and am more than happy to pay this, so to my mind, anyone taking on the task of teaching me can make some cash, i am reasonably fit (well, certainly no slouch) and I learn fast. Could my technique be SO terrible that he has a genuine nightmare at the thought of coaching me?, well, i work very hard during the sessions and kind of thought that i was doing ok'ish, getting a feel for various moves. Enjoyed doing the Thai Roundhouse into the pads very very much.

What would you do?, because my reaction after thinking this through is to call him, wish him the best for the future and find someone that actually wants to earn some money and who takes a bit of an interest in the student.
No encouragement or very little was offered to me, no "yeah, well done" or "thats it, good" etc. So I can possibly look forward to getting a coach that actually takes a little bit of an interest in his student, plus the showing of the money amounts and payment options made me think a bit.

One last point, shouldnt hand bindings be worn at all times??, I didnt wear them under the gloves and have given myself a bit of a sprained wrist, no big deal but I was wondering if he should have made me wear them? unless he thought that i wouldnt be hitting very hard..
any advice on this instructor issue would be appreciated.
HuSanYan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 11:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
Premiere Member
 
gregimotis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Still residing in the Premiere members booth
Posts: 1,959
gregimotis is a glorious beacon of lightgregimotis is a glorious beacon of lightgregimotis is a glorious beacon of lightgregimotis is a glorious beacon of lightgregimotis is a glorious beacon of lightgregimotis is a glorious beacon of light
Default

I've haven't got anything useful to add to your main question, but hand wraps generally aren't needed (in my exp.) unless working on the heavy bag or fighting. We at my gym don't use them when working pads and it's never been a problem. I fyou have a sprained wrist, my first guess is that it's a technique issue... though I'm sure it's possible you just hit very hard.
__________________
.
.
I am Tired. Tired. Tired.
gregimotis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 12:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
Posts: 651
Damian Mavis is on a distinguished road
Default

It's a sales ploy. He offers to teach you solo but really wants you to join the class long term. He gets you interested and then hits you up to join the class. Either tell him you just want the solo classes and that is it or leave. Or do what he wants.

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD
Damian Mavis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 01:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
retired's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: wales-great britain
Posts: 886
retired is on a distinguished road
Default

£25 an hour is way to much mate, a REAL instructor will take enough from you & the rest to keep the club going & buy new stuff but in my experience some of the cheaper (but respected) instructors turn out to be the best as they aren't in it for the money but want to pass on the art of Muay Thai.

My 2p
retired is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 01:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
Posts: 651
Damian Mavis is on a distinguished road
Default

Heh, why does everyone want their instructor to be poor and struggling in order to respect them? Instructors should be struggling until they are retired? Oh wait they can't retire! haha We don't expect the same out of university professors or anybody that provides us with valuable information. I see this attitude alot and am always confused and startled by it.

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD
Damian Mavis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 01:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
Excessive Moderator
 
eXcessiveForce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Missouri
Posts: 2,663
eXcessiveForce is a glorious beacon of lighteXcessiveForce is a glorious beacon of lighteXcessiveForce is a glorious beacon of lighteXcessiveForce is a glorious beacon of lighteXcessiveForce is a glorious beacon of light
Default

I won't teach a private lesson for under $80 an hour. my time is too valuable to do that. Why teach one person where I have to hold pads and do everything myself and make 80 bucks when I could teach a class of 10 make $600 and do much less work. or teach 30 and make $3000.

I do some one on one teaching but they have to do stuff for me too, like hold pads and such so that I can train with them. That is much less since I am getting some benefit out of it as well.

Or it's simply that he is busy and doesn't have the time. I know that I have trouble getting everything into my day. Luckily I have people that can do things for me when I get busy.
__________________
eXcessiveFORCE.

If you must use force, make it excessive.
eXcessiveForce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 02:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
bvermillion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Reading, Ma
Posts: 309
bvermillion is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Hey Excessive if you don't mind me asking what do you charge your students to train and what all do you offer? Do you offer more then tkd?
bvermillion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 04:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Maxetai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Thessaloniki, Greece
Posts: 151
Maxetai is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HuSanYan
What would you do?, because my reaction after thinking this through is to call him, wish him the best for the future and find someone that actually wants to earn some money and who takes a bit of an interest in the student.
No encouragement or very little was offered to me, no "yeah, well done" or "thats it, good" etc. So I can possibly look forward to getting a coach that actually takes a little bit of an interest in his student, plus the showing of the money amounts and payment options made me think a bit.

any advice on this instructor issue would be appreciated.
HuSanYan, you yourself have answered to your own question!
Maxetai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 04:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ngaruawahia, New Zealand
Posts: 77
William Eriepa is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Well my instructor charges NZ$120 every 3 months, with 3 training nights per week that go for a couple of hours each. But as long as we fight when he wants us to he won't ask us for any money, so it's basically free .
But he doesn't really have a gym, we train in his shed, but still it's quite big.
There's 8 of us.
William Eriepa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 06:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
adacas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Fresno, Ca
Posts: 563
adacas is on a distinguished road
Default

that dude is trying to burn you dude. I would be looking into a different instructor and I would do this right in his face. Perhaps the pressure will get to him and he will bow to your demands. When people do 180s like that its time to split.
__________________
Estalilla Kabaroan
adacas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2004, 07:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 98
kodankan is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

In time all questions are answered. Give it a little while and you will see where his intentions lay, then you will be able to make an informed decision
kodankan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2004, 11:54 AM   #12 (permalink)
Premiere Member
 
HuSanYan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 641
HuSanYan is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to HuSanYan
Default

some very good answers from all of you, thank you very much, I have taken all comments on board and am in the process of phoning around at the moment to find the closest alternative.........thanks folks
HuSanYan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2004, 06:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
Registered User
 
thaibxr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 95
thaibxr is on a distinguished road
Default ripped off

I would go somewhere else because I dont remember who said it but someone on this page said most good teachers take a small amount to keep the club going new equipment and something for thier time but I think an hourly rate is just retarded give him this
thaibxr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2004, 08:08 PM   #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 6
sari-an is on a distinguished road
Fist

In my gym we are required to where handwraps everytime we are hitting the bags, because it can cause you injury if you hit the bags with out them.. It also helps you're wrist not to get injured.. If i were you i would always put it on while training..
sari-an is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2004, 09:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
Registered User
 
thaibxr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 95
thaibxr is on a distinguished road
Default

if that was for me I always ware hand wraps under the gloves I just dont ware shin pads.
thaibxr is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
MT & SanShou differences applicable for street defense HuSanYan Thaiboxing and Kickboxing 76 01-31-2007 06:34 AM
Terrible Technique bvermillion Thaiboxing and Kickboxing 89 01-08-2004 01:12 PM
Chai's Instructors and their fight records skilzkid Thaiboxing and Kickboxing 18 05-30-2003 09:17 AM
Wing Chun Kung Fu.....waste of time and $ sakuraba fan Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) & BJJ Forum 56 11-16-2002 05:46 PM
Mma? Mt? Damn This Is Hard! holte2 Thaiboxing and Kickboxing 3 11-04-2002 10:58 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5
Template-Modifications by TMS
© Copyright 1996-2003, Mousel's Self-Defense Academy