FoxHound

Anyone know how to get around them? They've been giving me fits lately. I'm going to try angling off to the outside of that lead leg to make it more difficult. Scooping is another method I use, but doesn't always work.
On that matter, anyone here ever try going Thai vs. Savate? How did you measure up?

dbok1

Foxhound,

I don't mean to be rude or anything but I think you answered your own question. Being able to "scoop" teeps takes a long time to master, it's not something you can just pick up and do every time. One of the things with Thai boxing or for any sport for that matter is timing, and the ability to "see" your opponet and there movement. You have to have a trained eye which takes years of training.

As far as your other question, why even bother bring it up? They are 2 different styles just like any other.

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Senior Instru. Under "Sakasem"
Body Arts Gym
Muay Thai & MMA
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FoxHound

dbok1,

No offense taken. I suppose you're right that it does take time. I'm kind of new to the style, having studied some other martial arts before that dealt with standup, especially TKD; hence my obsession with finding a way around that leading leg to use my hands.
I didn't mean the Savate vs. Thai methods as it sounded. I was hoping for some stories about the experiences sparring between the two methods. How they complement/negate/find a way around each other kind of thing. I'm in no way bashing either style. I've studied some Savate and find it to be fascinating. Indeed, I'd take the time to study it in more depth if we had more instructors of it here in the States.

dbok1

Foxhound,

No problem, I guess that's why we have forums like this so people can discuss back and fourth.

I don't know much about Savate, other then it's more of a "leg" fighting system. Meaning they concentrate more on striking with the legs in a more karate style motion, where in thai boxing the kicks are more devistating to the legs and midsection.

Just remember Thai boxing consists of all 4 limbs, hands, feet, elbows and knees, along with some clinch work. Much different then Savate. My personal thoughts are that thai boxing is so different from any other martial art especially other stand ups, that we would always have the advantage being able to use more weapons, do you know what I mean? For example, if someone has never been kicked in the legs or ribs, how do you think they will re-act? Or after taking a knee to the stomach? If they are not conditioned to these types of blows, it could be deadly. Just my personal thoughts.

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David Bokman
Senior Instru. Under "Sakasem"
Body Arts Gym
Muay Thai & MMA
www.bodyartsgym.com
Philadelphia, PA

Damian Mavis

Foxhound, it's called practice you Joneser! haha Now get back to training and stop asking silly questions!

Ok I'm just joking but like dbok1 already inferred, you simply suck right now and will get better with more training. There are no magic answers on this board to circumvent that.

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD

FoxHound

dbok1,

Cool stuff. Savate is pretty deceptive with it's kicks. The style isn't like the Thai method, but still pretty intense. I'm interested in seeing just how well it'd perform in an NHB competition. Since it doesn't deal with the clinch, I don't think it'd do that well, but given that most NHB fighters cross train these days, I don't think it'd be such a big deal to learn it and pick it up quickly.

Damian,

Silly questions? Nothing wrong with getting some info from the guys here is there? It's true. I'm really not that great with the kickboxing game right now. One of the reasons I'm here is to learn from and share whatever I can with you guys. If you don't want to answer them, then don't.

Damian Mavis

Like I said, I am joking! The message was practice makes perfect so don't get frustrated, everything will become clear and easier down the road through hard work and dedication.

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD

FoxHound

Damian,

I suppose I took your last sentence the wrong way. Sorry about that pal. No hard feelings?
I'll definitely work on the stuff people have been telling me. You are all right in that perfect practice makes perfect. Let's see how this goes.

silapathai

I have sparred Savate stylists before and I was easily able to take them down to the ground at will via sweeps. Savate stylists spar wearing shoes and literally try to kick with the tips of there feet while wearing shoes. Another interesting thing about Savate is that in sparring you're allowed to kick to the back but not punch to the back, and the same in competition. I do like some of the chambering looping kicks that Savate does. I have never studied Savate but I allready do an almost identical kick that I just got through training evolution on my own.