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Im not familiar with this 1.

Khun Kao

I'm not familiar with "Tiger Walk" either, but some systems of Muay Thai include different styles of footwork which are named after animals. For instance, I remember reading about "Horse Walking".

The "Tiger Walk" techniques themselves are probably universal, in that I'm sure that most, if not all, Muay Thai systems incorporate a version of these techniques in their reportoire (sp?). But chances are that these techniques have many, many different names to describe them, so what some people call "Tiger Walk" in some systems of Muay Thai may be referred to with a different name in other systems.

There was a webpage somewhere I once saw that had pictures and diagrams illustrating some of the various footwork styles of Muay Thai. Try a web search of "Muay Thai" +Tiger +Walk and see what you come up with.

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nakgeela

I have a set of Thai training videos that include demonstrations of tiger, horse and lion walks.
"The tiger steps boxing walk is like a tiger looking for its prey.
Therefore each step is careful and calm.
It concentrates on its prey.
Every offensive and defensive action is done carefully.
He retreats quietly.
His eyes are on his opponents all the time."

Hope this is helpful.

natb19

Could it be reffering to the famous stance "Seua Lag Hang/Tiger drags it's tail" ?

This a low stance, and an advanced move, used to draw the opponent in before counter attacking?

Garland

Sounds like what Sakasem, my old coach, used to do in some of the films I've seen of him. Drop his left hand and keep his right hand up to guard, take on a stance a little deeper then a regular thai stance, but still mobile and still utilizing stalking footwork. He used it to draw the attackers leg out, which he would slip by leaning back and then fire back with bunches of punches. I remember mimicking this in front of another coach and being told that I could try doing that when I had a dozen fights under my belt, but until then I risked getting my head kicked off. It's a good way to ABD.

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chalambok

Tiger Dragging His Tail is a series of dance moves done with the staff during pre-fight rituals in Krabi-Krabong. This is not to say muay Thai schools do not use the same terminology. I prefer to think there is some resemblance to the historical, and appreciate schools helping to keep alive the old tradition, even if just by using the words. If done empty-handed, the hand is held low in front of the body, while backing up to drag the opponent to you. The footwork does not lend itself easily to modern ring fighting, so it is rare you see Tiger Dragging His Tail nowadays.

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george stando

tiger walk is from the old bare knuckle muay korat system.

natb19

Seua Lag Hang is usable, but like Garland's old coach mentioned, you have to be pretty dam good to pull this off. It's taught in Muay Thai Chaiya (and I'm sure it's the same base move as you've learnt in Krabi-Krabong chalambok), and there's a variety of moves from this stance, mostly to counter the kick to the head that is so tempting! Check the 'Chaiya' film, Tae does it at the beginning and counters using Hanuman Fad Goomagan to counter a drawn Teeb kick.

The simplest is to simply stand up and catch the leg, as by standing, the head level becomes waste level, and the kick is open to be caught and countered. The kneck can also be grabbed, body pivots and take the opponent down (Ben Su Men). Again, non of these are simple moves, and are very risky. When training, we practice this move, mainly to exercise our legs (any students of Baan Chang Thai will remember the pain!), but it's fun pulling it out when sparring green students, as it can really confuse

George, can you explain the Tiger Walk from the muay Korat system? Sounds interesting.

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Tee Sok

Bare Knuckle Muay Thai Seminar DVD

You can try here, you can see Muay Korat's tiger walk as well as other things.

Khun Kao

Wow, very old topic. I finally learned about the Tiger's Walk from Colonel Amnat Pooksrisuk a few years ago. The Tiger's Walk is not a technique, but a strategy. Tiger's Walk refers to performing simultaneous actions from opposite sides of the body, such as a punch & a kick, a block & a strike..... I understand that its origins are traced back to Muay Korat.

There is also the Lion's Walk, which also refers to performing simultaneous actions, but on the same side of the body. The Lion's Walk is typical of Muay Chaiya.

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Tee Sok

Hi Khun kao, thanks for the detailed explanation.

george stando

I just got a short answer from Vincent Giordano on muay korat and the tiger walk:

"The tiger walk is different from the lion walk in how it fits into the matrix of muay korat. First, it is a drill to open up the opposite sides of the body. Like a "X" it can walked to loosen and open the body, and it looks somewhat like an aerobics drill, which it can easily become. It has that scissoring action of the tigers teeth and the idea as a strategy of using opposite angles to simultaneously attack.

An interesting motion to decode is the elbow part of the simultaneous elbow/knee action, there is a slight twist like turning a screw as it comes down to meet the knee. That elbow can generate power from zero distance, meaning unlike the spectacular elbows which rise and fall, this can drop and screw into the target with lightning efficiency and excellent power.

Although it is presented as a simultaneous action with the elbow meeting the opposite knee, for fighting it can be timed differently as a possible fake, or slightly behind the leading attacking action being the elbow or knee.

Muay Korat is compact and very efficient for a bare knuckle style and the tiger walk has alot of variables beyond the ancient sort of dead pattern that one perceives it to be. Its not just two opposite actions coming together but the beginning of an attacking action and the timings to use it functionally."

natb19

Can you explain this a little more? Performing simultaneous actions on the same side of the body seems so un-Chaiya!

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Tee Sok

Great description from Vincent Giordano, that is just fascinating. thanks for posting, George.

Khun Kao

You have to take what I say with a grain of salt. George Stando, Vincent Giordanno, and myself have all trained with Colonel Amnat, but George and Vincent have also trained extensively from other sources. I have only trained under one other coach (Master Kham Philavahn through Kru Eric Kolesar) and that training was merely learning some basic principles, strategy, and technique with little to no historical perspective to back it up.

If I remember correctly (operative word: "IF") Lion's Walk is derivative of Muay Chaiya. However, I could be remembering incorrectly or misinterpreting the lessons.

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