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Old 05-20-2004, 12:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys,

I've been training for about a year now and I am planning on investing in a heavy (banana) bag for my home gym. My gym is a converted two car garage, and the walls are covered with tools and equipment etc etc... so I can't really hang a bag from the wall or from the ceiling (since its seems too high and I am worried about damaging the ceiling)... I've been looking at some stands to hold the bag, but they all seem more geared towards traditional american boxing... I fear that kicking them hard may tip over the stand, or there might not be enough room to kick and move around the stand...

If anyone has had any experience with these stands please let me know...

ringside

amazon

balazs

everlast

oh, as far as bags go, what do you recommend... where should I buy it, and should I fill it myself, or buy it pre-filled... and if I fill it, what do I fill it with.

Thanks for taking the time to read and answer my questions...

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The best thing would be to hang it from your ceiling - I would look into that and be sure it can't be done. Even if you have to put a hole in the sheetrock to access the beams, it is by far your best option.

Failing that, the last two of those hangers look better than the first two. You want to be able to move around the bag as much as possible and let it swing freely in all directions. Obviously, you wouldn't want to accidentally kick one of those metal stands.

If you fill your own bag, a good material is shredded rags and t-shirts and such. Put some in, then pack it with a broom handle or axe handle or somesuch - then put some more; rinse, repeat. Take your time and really pack that sucker, or you'll be doing it again later.

Finally, the heavier the bag the better - for kicking anyway. I've worked with 75-100 lbs and they just swing to much. 150lbs seems good. Of course, you may need to make adjustments. Those stands might not support that much weight.


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Hi,

I recommend purchasing the bag filled. I really like the bag from Kwon and have used them in my gym for many years....I just took a look at the kwon site and this bag is different from the one I bought from them. Here's the link for you to check out:

http://www.kwonusa.com/kwon/usa/trai...&SInfo=details

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i have an everlast bag at home, and i'm about to upgrade since it's a few years old, but i'm going with Ringside this time around, they just seem to make the best leather bags around. although i haven't tried that one from Kwon that Mr. Mousel is reccomending.


just my personal preference, and if you can afford it their Muay Thai bags are always a joy to knock around
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Mr Mousel is probably right about buying it pre-filled. The shipping will hurt, but it'll be done right and you'll never have to mess with it.
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My friend gave me his heavy bag because he stopped punching it. He told me it dropped from his ceiling before. This bag is about 50-60 kilos. I am wondering can the wallplug hold the bag. I know most bags are hanged from the ceiling but i'm afraid it might fall off. Wat size do you guys use for the wallplug? Any tips/instructions will be appreciated. Thanks
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If you have enough room in your garage, you can make a huge "saw-horse" shaped stand to hang your bag from. I have seen these at a number of different gyms and if put together well, they can support a bag for kicking.
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my heavy bag is attached to a hanger which is attachted to two 2 by 4's which is screwed into the ceiling jousts of my garage, it weighs about 120 filled with rags and packed sand in the area level to my ribs (to simulate punching someone in the ribs). I know for a fact it won't be coming out any time soon since my 235lb boxing teacher who gave it it me hung from the chains and did a few pull ups to make sure it would hold.
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What me and my dad are planing is to break a piece of cement in the corner of my driveway. Then put in a 4X6 in there, cement it. Then im thinking of buying a hanger (similar to the everlast that is shown above). and hang the bag on it. What do u guys think of that plan?
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Mr. Mousel has a good recommendation with the bag from Kwon, and Ringside always makes great bags! A tip: Don't buy a Century banana bag....I have one in my school and within a couple months it had settled and formed pockets from the kicks. Plus the cornerman stand holding the bag jumps all around with any forceful kicks whatsoever. If you are going to Hang, I recommend a heavy duty spring like what Ringside sells. It takes alot of impact away from your ceiling...works great!

I have a question as well...I can't hang bags in our school so I went with the XXL bags from Century thinking they would hold up, but they have not. We have broken several of the base nuts so they don't stay tight and the foam portion is weak already. Does anyone have a suggestion on free standing that can withstand the hard Thai roundkicks?? I have tried Ringside's freestanding bag in the past and may go with that again, but would cost so much more. I would appreciate any thoughts. Thanks!
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Thanks for all your suggestions. I finally took the advice I got from this discussion and purchased a filled Kwon banana bag. It ran with shipping about $230, about $20 less then other brands online. I also bought the "heavy duty wall mount hanger" from title boxing, that ran about $60, with shipping. I also purchased a 7 inch heavy duty spring to place between the bag chains and the wall mount. That ran about $15, with shipping included. Installation was pretty easy, but it's definitely a two person job... Unfortunately I'm nursing a leg injury and haven't really gone all out on the bag. But the feel of the bag is pretty nice, it's well made... and the wall mount provides more than adequate support. It swings a little to much, but I'm working on that... currently it hangs a little too high up for me, at about 8 inches off the ground... I'm looking to drop it about 4 inches or so... hopefully that will minimize the swinging...

Thanks again for all the input and information. It's great to have a forum like this that can offer so many different insights, opinions and recommendations.

Thanks again

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