Uncle Corny

python, the first video, with the british guy fucking up all these muay thai students. hilarious.

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Python

Maybe I am not seeing some detail you are seeing...this could be true. I am not saying you are wrong and I am right...Hell, Even with Muay Thai being one system with no hybrids, the training and teaching still varies from camp to camp. I have seen the roundkick taught a few different ways from the hand placement to the angle of the kicking leg. Even Ajarn Chai has actually changed some of the techniques he teaches in his seminars as time and fights have evolved. I just thought the kick looked good from what I could tell. Take a look at how K-1 fighter Michael McDonald sets up his right roundkick....he throws the jab and cross with the roundkick right behind it putting the opponents guard to the high line first and then he attacks the low line hard. It has proven very "effective" for him. Whether I am right or wrong, I have always taught my students that while technique is extremely important, when it comes right down to the fight, there is no right or wrong technique or right or wrong style of combat....only what is "effective or non-effective". Look at Dewey Cooper. He is a true warrior and has great fight strategy in the ring, but still throws his hooks like a sissy, kinda slapping with the front of the hand instead of the knuckles.....but even though the "technique" is bad or wrong, it is still very effective for his fighting style.

Would you agree that the white guy could have set up the kick better and not had a problem?

Not trying to write a book here, sorry, just trying to make some sense of how I view the incident. Again, we will all view it slightly differently based on how we have been taught, do you agree?

Later.

Python

Uncle Corny,

Oh, Ok...I didn't see that one. Was it on the same website then? Shit, dumb "Q"..you kinda said that already...I will check it out later, could use a good laugh, thanks.

Uncle Corny

http://ravensthaiboxing.tripod.com/thai/id2.html

it's the first one on the list. "adult only kung fu comedy"

i found it hilarious.

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hEmPY

JUS KIK FUKIN RIGHT N KIK FUKIN HARD FOO!!!!!!!!!!

Morkul

I think anyway you look at it, it still makes your asshole clinch and your shins hurt. I mean damn. Did you see the way the foot becomes so independent and flails about......I mean woof.

Python

LOL...No shit man, I have watched it over and over, dozens of times, and I still cringe. The guy had to wet himself or plain shit his pants, no doubt about it! It reminds me of when Joe Theisman(Redskins) had his shin broke back in the 80's. Anyone remember that one?? Same feeling. We are all imagining the sheer Freakin Pain that guy was in, I wonder what the other guy was thinking at that moment??


Hey, Uncle Corny, I watched the Adult Kung Fu Video...yea , it was funny!

Morkul

Yeah, I remember that game. It was against the Giants, I think. Could be wrong. I was born and raised in DC, but am a die-hard Cowboys fan.

Karate_is_cool

i saw that video a while back and damn it still hurts watchin it. especially when he lands on the same leg he broke ughhghghg.......

not tryin to scare anyone but my friend read somewhere that the fact that we harden our shins might give us a greater risk of doing the same thing that guy did. apparently when we condition our shins they become harder BUT they also become more brittle. that might add the risk of actually breaking our leg.

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hEmPY

bullshit

We harden our shins, that makes it grow bigger. The bigger is bone, harder it is to break it. Same thing bout knuckles.

eXcessiveForce

There actually is some scientific evidence that conditioning can make a bone more prone to breaking due to the bone becoming more ridged and less able to bend with strong impact.

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hEmPY

That means, Pedro Rizzo, what he is now, would loss his shin bone to himself long ago, to the guy that never took a MA lesson

FUK SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Broadsword2004

Maybe the white guy just didn't have his shins conditioned enough??

Or maybe the black guy's shins were alot MORE conditioned than the white guy's??

That had to hurt a LOT though. I heard about a fight with Ken Shamrock and some guy, one of those MMA fights, and they said Ken caught the guy's leg and twisted it one way, but the guy himself twisted in the other direction completely, and Ken destroyed his whole lower leg. Guess it was something like that guy (imagine your knee ripping from your body twisting in the opposite direction your lower leg is going).

What made me cringe was that scene in "We Were Soldiers," where the Asian guy, Jimmy Nakayama, gets all burned up cuz they accidentally firebombed the wrong spot, so Barry Pepper grabs his feet to help the medical guy carry him to the chopper, and all the skin on his lower legs, right above the feet, is just all melted and slides down, and Barry's hands get all filled with melted skin and the Nakayama guy screams (:::shudder::.

That broken leg though; imagine what some guys back in the old gladiatorial days must have went through!!! And back then, they often turned a blind eye to you if they thought you were wimp! The one guy was famous for breaking individually all of his opponent's fingers, then I guess choking him or something.

I find that really interesting about the shin conditioning, about how if your shins are made hard, they may be brittle and inflexible. I never thought of that. From what I understand though, a Muay Thai fighter conditions their shins by kicking a heavy bag thousands of times a day, not kicking trees or steel beams.

It looked like the guy's lower leg just plaine broke but, it was the lower shin, and it looks to me like he made hard contact with the raised knee of the black guy. If you make a full-on hard-ass shin kick and the opponent raises his knee, the knee is not only super hard, but it also absorbs shock perfectly. The black guy I'd think had a well-conditioned knee and he rose his leg, making the knee a point, right as the white guy's lower leg smashed into it, and it just broke that bone down there.

I also heard a story where a Thai fighter in Thailand jumped up and smashed his elbow down onto his opponent and opened the guy's head up like a melon. Bet that must have been a site.

Hey, speaking of Thailand, my birthday is not only St. Patrick's Day (March 17), but also National Muay Thai Day (also March 17)!! According to the Thai people, then, I must be a great warrior from their past who was ressurected

Tom Yum

We need to put together a film called "Science & Hempy" fashioned in the 1950's style of what Hempy's life would be like without the advent of modern science....

Interviewer: Good morning Mr. Hempy, How are you?

Hempy (in perfectly fluent Japanese ): Ohio Goziamasu Smeeth Sensei

Interviewer: uh huh...well, I will attempt to translate things for our unaltered audience back in the year 2004..."Mr. Hempy tell us about your typical day?"

Hempy:....(Voiced over in English from Japanese) ' I wake up every morning at 4:30am to the rooster and then I know it is time for my hunt. I pack my blowgun very tightly and head out with my hommies...I mean fellow tribesmen and we hide and wait for about 4 hours until something comes near the water to feed, then we attempt to blow a poisoned dart at it from a distance of 80 steps'

Interviewer: ok, so you don't get up, use a microwave for your pop tarts, brew your coffee and watch the morning news?

Hempy: What did you just say? Do you speak of the spirits??

THE END

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