Muay Thai vs Western Boxing - Page 6

white devil · 05-16-2006, 06:18 PM

the thread reads : who will win in a street fight.

anything can happen in a street fight..or not happen..(even the fight most of the time)

Tom Yum · 04-03-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bigred389

Wasn't there a K-1 event that pitted a bunch of boxers against a bunch of Muay Thai guys?

I recall some of the fights ending pretty quickly via leg kick.

It depends.

Frans Botha put the hurt down on Cyril Abidi during their first bout, but got DQ'd cause he started punching Abidi on the way down and while on the ground.

In their second meeting, Abidi defended punches alot better and slowed Botha down with leg kicks. He eventually landed a big kick upstairs, which sent Botha to the mat.

Shannon Briggs KO'd a Pride fighter in a first round victory. He retired from MMA after his first fight because he said he never wants to get kicked in the legs again...lol.

Botha got KOd by Fujiyama via kick to the head. Meanwhile,

Masato squared off against a recently retired middleweight boxing champion, who had a really high KO percentage. The entire bout had the boxer taking the fight to Masato, whom was using thai kicks to the leg and body defensively while back tracking and moving away from his power hand.

After absorbing/blocking about 10 kicks, the boxer got hit by a leg kick, fell and started crawling.

Boxers have KOd muaythai fighters and vice versa. It just depends whose able to adapt to the other and use their skills.

Vapor · 04-27-2007, 11:35 PM

What is it they say in Muay Thai?

kick beats punch beats elbow beats knee?

Garland · 04-28-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vapor

What is it they say in Muay Thai?

kick beats punch beats elbow beats knee?

Uh...no?

Who the **** says that? Who are you? Why is that relevant? And...just generally, what the ****?

...fucking what?!

Vapor · 04-28-2007, 05:35 PM

Are you an angry person?

Tom Yum · 04-29-2007, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by white devil

In fact,youre not even writing this..im just imaginating this forum..actually we are all a hundred thousand miles away strapped to chairs with big tubes coming out of our heads and we are basicaly only dreaming this life..we are all a simulation of the matrix..im telling you its useless to fight!!

Oh brother...

Mephariel · 04-29-2007, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor

What is it they say in Muay Thai?

kick beats punch beats elbow beats knee?

How the hell?

Where the hell did you hear that from?

Garland · 04-30-2007, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mephariel

How the hell?

Where the hell did you hear that from?

That's what I fucking said...and then they told me I had an "anger problem."

I'd rather have an anger problem than a stupid problem.

Tom Yum · 05-05-2007, 12:59 AM

Masato (K-1) vs. Vince Phillips (Boxing).

Tale of the tape:

Phillips
5'7.5" 152 lbs
97-99' IBF welterweight boxing Champion
60 Fights 48 Wins 34 Kos 11 Lost 1 Draw
(Won 80% of fights; 74% of victories by KO).

Masato
5'8" 154 lbs
02-03' K-1 Max Champion
49 Fights 42 Wins 19 Kos 5 Lost 2 Draw
(Won 86% of fights; 45% of victories by KO)

Garland · 05-05-2007, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Yum

Masato (K-1) vs. Vince Phillips (Boxing).

Tale of the tape:

Phillips
5'7.5" 152 lbs
97-99' IBF welterweight boxing Champion
60 Fights 48 Wins 34 Kos 11 Lost 1 Draw
(Won 80% of fights; 74% of victories by KO).

Masato
5'8" 154 lbs
02-03' K-1 Max Champion
49 Fights 42 Wins 19 Kos 5 Lost 2 Draw
(Won 86% of fights; 45% of victories by KO)

The title of the thread said STREETFIGHT.
I want to see a boxer and a kickboxer fight each other with broken beer bottles and see who would win.

Tom Yum · 05-05-2007, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Garland

The title of the thread said STREETFIGHT.
I want to see a boxer and a kickboxer fight each other with broken beer bottles and see who would win.

Unfortunately, this is the only footage you can get of a boxer and kickboxer squaring off and its in a legally arranged fight.

Shannon Briggs (Boxing) vs. Tom Erikson (NHB)

K-1 Rules (Both fighters are fighting outside of their normal rules - Erikson comes from a wrestling background, but fights NHB)

Tom Yum · 05-05-2007, 01:23 AM

Frans "The White Buffalo" Botha (boxing) vs. Cyril Abidi (K-1)

Botha rendered a quick beatdown, boxing style.

Tom Yum · 05-05-2007, 01:24 AM

Merciless Ray Mercer (Boxing) vs. Musashi (K-1). Not a good fight.

Tom Yum · 05-05-2007, 01:36 AM

Botha (boxing) vs. Jerome Le Banner (K-1)

Le Banner is a decent boxer and actually rocks Botha a few times with a few solid right hooks and a nice left cross in the first round, but you can't keep boxing a boxer - Botha drops Le Banner in the 2nd.

The fight goes on with Le banner getting good solid clinch knees and decent kicks downstairs and upstairs; Botha returns the favor rocking Le Banner with some big punches -> Botha is tough as nails!

WMTI · 05-06-2007, 12:54 PM

given equal athletes, its highly unlikey a boxer would beat a muay thai fighter. The old days of Thai boxers not having good hands is gone. Muay thai schools now teach hand skills as a root system. I make my fighters do 1 month hands only and yes I was a boxer, have titles etc and am a certified boxing instructor, so that my fighters are getting solid hand skills. You would be hard pressed to find an instructor now adays that doesnt feel theat hand skills are worthy of trianing.
my 2 cents, you can keep the change!

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05-16-2006, 06:18 PM	#76 (permalink)
white devil Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 288	the thread reads : who will win in a street fight. anything can happen in a street fight..or not happen..(even the fight most of the time) __________________ Who dares Wins

05-05-2007, 12:59 AM	#84 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,220	Masato (K-1) vs. Vince Phillips (Boxing). Tale of the tape: Phillips 5'7.5" 152 lbs 97-99' IBF welterweight boxing Champion 60 Fights 48 Wins 34 Kos 11 Lost 1 Draw (Won 80% of fights; 74% of victories by KO). Masato 5'8" 154 lbs 02-03' K-1 Max Champion 49 Fights 42 Wins 19 Kos 5 Lost 2 Draw (Won 86% of fights; 45% of victories by KO) __________________ The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know. Slow is fast; fast is slow. Love it, leave it or fix it. Last edited by Tom Yum; 05-05-2007 at 01:05 AM.

05-05-2007, 01:23 AM	#87 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,220	Frans "The White Buffalo" Botha (boxing) vs. Cyril Abidi (K-1) Botha rendered a quick beatdown, boxing style. __________________ The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know. Slow is fast; fast is slow. Love it, leave it or fix it.

05-05-2007, 01:24 AM	#88 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,220	Merciless Ray Mercer (Boxing) vs. Musashi (K-1). Not a good fight. __________________ The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know. Slow is fast; fast is slow. Love it, leave it or fix it. Last edited by Tom Yum; 05-05-2007 at 01:43 AM.

04-27-2007, 11:35 PM	#78 (permalink)
Vapor Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7	What is it they say in Muay Thai? kick beats punch beats elbow beats knee?

04-28-2007, 05:35 PM	#80 (permalink)
Vapor Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7	Are you an angry person?

05-05-2007, 01:36 AM	#89 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,220	Botha (boxing) vs. Jerome Le Banner (K-1) Le Banner is a decent boxer and actually rocks Botha a few times with a few solid right hooks and a nice left cross in the first round, but you can't keep boxing a boxer - Botha drops Le Banner in the 2nd. The fight goes on with Le banner getting good solid clinch knees and decent kicks downstairs and upstairs; Botha returns the favor rocking Le Banner with some big punches -> Botha is tough as nails! __________________ The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know. Slow is fast; fast is slow. Love it, leave it or fix it. Last edited by Tom Yum; 05-06-2007 at 01:42 AM.

05-06-2007, 12:54 PM	#90 (permalink)
WMTI Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 24	given equal athletes, its highly unlikey a boxer would beat a muay thai fighter. The old days of Thai boxers not having good hands is gone. Muay thai schools now teach hand skills as a root system. I make my fighters do 1 month hands only and yes I was a boxer, have titles etc and am a certified boxing instructor, so that my fighters are getting solid hand skills. You would be hard pressed to find an instructor now adays that doesnt feel theat hand skills are worthy of trianing. my 2 cents, you can keep the change! __________________ Ajarn Gary Dunne cam_taovp@hotmail.com www.camtao.org

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