Can I Learn Muay Thai From Duke Rufus Videos?

CandyHammer · 10-26-2004, 02:17 PM

I was wondering if I could learn to fight the thai style from getting the videos from Duke? I live in a small farm town and there is absolutley no training around.... What do you think?

gabbah · 10-26-2004, 05:57 PM

You can learn some of the theory behing techniques, and if you have a bag you can train some of them. But chances are you will be stuck with several errors that you cannot spot yourself, even if you stand in front of a mirror.
Also, those tapes don't show you the DETAILS of how to perform a technique correctly.
So yeah, you can learn a little, but FAR from the whole picture. And if you don't have a training partner you can't sparr.. without sparring it's useless.
Just my opinion.

medic06 · 10-26-2004, 08:37 PM

still better than nothing. . . .

**gregimotis** · 10-26-2004, 08:38 PM

Just what Gabbah said.

Also, getting a partner to learn from the tape with you won't help either because then you are both learning errors together. What will happen eventually is you'll go someplace with a M.T. school and have to unlearn everything you learned wrong the first time.

Is there any wrestling around? It might not be what you had in mind, but it's a great grappling foundation (freestlye wrestling, not WWE bollocks, of course).

KZL · 10-27-2004, 12:32 AM

Where exactly are you? You never know when someone on this forum will know of a place nearby to train....

CandyHammer · 10-27-2004, 11:00 AM

Savannah, Tennessee

chalambok · 10-29-2004, 05:53 PM

See if you can find a copy of Duke's brother Rick getting beaten up by Kitsandruk. You can learn a lot from that...lol

Tom Yum · 10-29-2004, 11:18 PM

Ouch!

I think I saw that one on an old kickboxing video called championship kickboxing. It had a lot of big name fights in American Kickboxing and a couple of exhibition matches between American kickboxers and muay thai fighters.

I thought it was Rick Roufus fighting Kiatsongrit? Regardless, it was brutal for Rick - before muay thai became popular...

On the other hand, did you see the Peter Sugarfoot Cunningham fight?
He cornered that thai boxer and just went to town with 7 punch combinations. Kind of a clue as to how future western trained thai boxers might compete against the thais with superior clinch and kicks.

chalambok · 10-30-2004, 05:25 PM

Oh man, thanks Tom Yum. Sugarfoot Cunningham used to be one of my favorite fighters, but over the years I had forgotten his name. I agree about superior boxing skills. Still waiting to see it happen in a big way.

10-26-2004, 02:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
CandyHammer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can I Learn Muay Thai From Duke Rufus Videos? I was wondering if I could learn to fight the thai style from getting the videos from Duke? I live in a small farm town and there is absolutley no training around.... What do you think?

10-26-2004, 08:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
gregimotis Premiere Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Still residing in the Premiere members booth Posts: 1,997 Groans: 4 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just what Gabbah said. Also, getting a partner to learn from the tape with you won't help either because then you are both learning errors together. What will happen eventually is you'll go someplace with a M.T. school and have to unlearn everything you learned wrong the first time. Is there any wrestling around? It might not be what you had in mind, but it's a great grappling foundation (freestlye wrestling, not WWE bollocks, of course). __________________ . . I am Tired. Tired. Tired.

10-27-2004, 12:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
KZL Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa, USA Posts: 48 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Where exactly are you? You never know when someone on this forum will know of a place nearby to train.... __________________ Keith Z. Leonard "hey, is that my toe over there??"

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10-26-2004, 05:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
gabbah Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sweden, Stockholm Posts: 573 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	You can learn some of the theory behing techniques, and if you have a bag you can train some of them. But chances are you will be stuck with several errors that you cannot spot yourself, even if you stand in front of a mirror. Also, those tapes don't show you the DETAILS of how to perform a technique correctly. So yeah, you can learn a little, but FAR from the whole picture. And if you don't have a training partner you can't sparr.. without sparring it's useless. Just my opinion.

10-26-2004, 08:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
medic06 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,028 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	still better than nothing. . . .

10-27-2004, 11:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
CandyHammer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Savannah, Tennessee

10-29-2004, 05:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
chalambok Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oregon City, Oregon USA Posts: 724 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	See if you can find a copy of Duke's brother Rick getting beaten up by Kitsandruk. You can learn a lot from that...lol

10-29-2004, 11:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,307 Groans: 1 Groaned at 4 Times in 4 Posts	Ouch! I think I saw that one on an old kickboxing video called championship kickboxing. It had a lot of big name fights in American Kickboxing and a couple of exhibition matches between American kickboxers and muay thai fighters. I thought it was Rick Roufus fighting Kiatsongrit? Regardless, it was brutal for Rick - before muay thai became popular... On the other hand, did you see the Peter Sugarfoot Cunningham fight? He cornered that thai boxer and just went to town with 7 punch combinations. Kind of a clue as to how future western trained thai boxers might compete against the thais with superior clinch and kicks.

10-30-2004, 05:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
chalambok Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oregon City, Oregon USA Posts: 724 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh man, thanks Tom Yum. Sugarfoot Cunningham used to be one of my favorite fighters, but over the years I had forgotten his name. I agree about superior boxing skills. Still waiting to see it happen in a big way.

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