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Old 03-03-2005, 09:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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vs mauy thai.
i say gojo becuase it has more tradition than muay thai.
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vs mauy thai.
i say gojo becuase it has more tradition than muay thai.
Depends on how you define "tradition."

But the answer to your question is that the systems can't ever fight. When two men fight, the men fight. The tools they use don't decide anything. It's how good they are with those tools that puts the odds in their favor.

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vs mauy thai.
i say gojo becuase it has more tradition than muay thai.
What 'chu talkin' bout Willis?! Tradition? Muay thai's been around a whole lot longer than goju ryu karate-do...and it's da most hardo-core-o.
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Laugh it up...because he could. Ex-Lumpinee stadium champ. No shit.
Seriously...this guy's a legend in Thailand. Nong Toom. And one of my personal favorite fighters of all time.
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Old 03-05-2005, 10:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Put simply, goju ryu karate, or any karate for that matter, has not gone through extensive battle field refinement and thus the style is not as effective in combat as other arts that have, like kali, silat, krabi krabong, and other S.E. Asian arts, or kenjutsu in the case of Japan. Muay Thai has gone through at least 100 if not more years of ring evolution after breaking off of Krabi Krabong. It is a case of martial arts Darwinism, if their is not a time of combat testing, the art lacks certain combat realities. It is not to say that Goju-ryu or similar art is no good, you'd probably learn a lot of life skills in such a dojo environment. Having done karate for 10 + years before being introduced to Muay Thai and other S.E. Asian arts, I speak with experience. I wouldn't trade what I learned about being a person for anything, but I do wish that I had been developing a whole different array of skills than doing kata. But again, for those who don't need the grit that you get from Muay Thai, then goju or whatever karate style is fine. In the end, the old "my kung-fu is better than your kung-fu" comes down to exactly that, who is the better fighter. Style vs. style is like saying, who'd win, football or rugby? The question itself does not lead anywhere. A more nuanced question would be, "How does the training in a hard karate style like goju-ryu compare to the training in Muay Thai and how do the respective arts translate basic skills into fighting ones? Finally, how do the styles practice and develop overall fighting skills?" Questions like these are more interesting and would generate much more intellegent discussion.
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**** intellegent discussion, mr. smarty pants.
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Well I just drank a fifth of Jack...and I wantsta hit on your girl....
assuming you got a girl? Maybe I'll hit on your boyfriend...at this point, I don't give a ****
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"it's not how good the style is, it's how well they perform."
example, if i assume bajiquan(eight fist chinese martial arts) is the strongest, but the practitioner trains once a week and doesn't improve his techniques, against one who does not know any martial arts but has exellent agility and vision. you know the results
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