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Old 07-24-2005, 03:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Fist Ivan Menivar in my opinion the current best Thai Boxer & MMA Fighter in the World

I think Ivan Menjivar although only a 145 pound fighter could destroy Chuck Lidell & Randy Couture. Love to see Menjivar fight Kimo.
His Muay Thai Fighting Skills & Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is just awsome too watch.
I would have also liked to have seen my Hero Benny Urquidez fight Ivan Menjivar in his prime, Now this would have been an incredible fight.
Truly believe Ivan Menjivar would have knocked Bruce Lee out in round 1.
Ive added some links regarding this awsome fighter. I watched a few of his fights & even think Bas Rutten would have had a lot of trouble with this Guy.
Dont let his size fool you he hits like a heavyweight & his speed & skill is just incredible. You have to see this guy fight to believe his ability. Just dont blink.
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http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/f...?fighterid=993

http://www.canadagrappling.com/competitor-294.html

http://www.sherdog.com/news/interviews.asp?n_id=1716

http://www.elchasquilatino.com/habla...te_extremo.htm


http://www.ultimefanatic.com/Entrevues/Menjivar_eng.htm


http://www.impactmma.com/interviews/ivanmenjivar.htm


http://apexfighting.com/news.html


http://www.sherdog.com/news/search.a...njivar&n_cat=3


http://www.mmafighting.com/news/ucc.html


http://www.maximumg.com/index.cfm?pageID=203
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Old 07-24-2005, 05:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I know he is in a different league but I like Cueng lee.
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So you're from Canada and believe and that a canadian fighter whose severly outweighted and has much less experience will beat two of the best LHW's out there, how original.

Matt Serra beat Ivan in the UFC already and I remember Menjivar fighting in one the canadian events in the 170 division, so he's more than 145. You know Lidell has got 20 mma fights and about the same amount in kickboxing too, as well as being a division one wrestler.

Randy been wrestling for thirty years and just all around bad mofo, please no matter how much you like your countryman, whose originally from central america I might add, he's not going to beat Lidell or Randy. Not to mention, I doubt he's that great of a muay thai guy, unless, he's beating thai champs from thailand he's just probably average at muay thai at best.
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Fist I still believe he can beat Thai Fighters and is The number 1 MMA Champion.

Check out the links Ive provided.
And yes I truly believe he could beat the shit out of Randy Couture & Chuck Lidell.
And his Muay Thai Skills are brillant. No Muay Thai Fighter could touch him.
I stick by my opinion & Iam not even Canadian just happend to live in Canada.
I have watched Chuck Lidell & Randy Couture Fight in many occassions & yes they are good fighters but I dont think they are the best.
& Ivan Menjivar is currently a 145 pound fighter check links provided.
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Ivan "Pride of El Slavador" Menjivar

Name Ivan Menjivar
Nick Name Pride of El Slavador
Record 15 - 4 - 0 (Win - Loss - Draw)
Wins 7 (T)KOs (46.67%)
6 Submissions (40.00%)
2 Decisions (13.33%)

Losses 1 (T)KOs (25.00%)
1 Submissions (25.00%)
2 Decisions (50.00%)

Height 5'6 (168cm)
Weight 145lbs (66kg)
City Montreal
State Quebec
Country Canada



Win Brandon Carlson Submission (Rear Naked Choke) KOTC-Edmonton 4/16/2005
Win Ryan Ackerman TKO APEX-Genesis 9/5/2004
Loss Matt Serra Decision (Unanimous) UFC 48-Payback 6/19/2004
Win Mike French Submission (Armbar) UGC 6-Ultimate Generation Combat 6 12/20/2003
Win Antoine Coutu TKO UGC 5-Ultimate Generation Combat 5 10/18/2003
Loss Vitor Ribeiro Decision (Unanimous) AFC 4-Absolute Fighting Championships 4 7/19/2003
Win Brandon Shuey Submission (Kneebar) WFF 4-Civil War 4/4/2003
Win Max Marin TKO MFC-Unplugged 11/29/2002
Win Andy Social Submission (Armbar) UCC PG 8-UCC Proving Ground 8 11/3/2002
Win Shane Rice TKO UCC 11-The Next Level 10/11/2002
Win Jay R. Palmer TKO (Slam) UCC Hawaii-Eruption in Hawaii 9/17/2002
Win Jeff Curran Decision (Unanimous) UCC 10-Battle for the Belts 2002 6/15/2002
Loss Jason Black Submission (Choke) UCC 8-Fast and Furious 3/30/2002
Win Andy Lalonde TKO UCC PG 4-UCC Proving Ground 4 3/9/2002
Loss Georges St-Pierre TKO UCC 7-Bad Boyz 1/25/2002
Win Dany Ward TKO UCC PG 2-UCC Proving Ground 2 12/16/2001
Win Francois Flibotte Submission (Rear Naked Choke) UCC PG 1-UCC Proving Ground 1 10/28/2001
Win J.F. Bolduc Decision (Split) UCC 4-Return Of The Super Strikers 5/12/2001
Win David Guigui Submission UCC 3-Battle for the Belts 1/27/2001


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Well, if he were the greatest Thai fighter in the world... he would be a strictly Thai fighter, win tournaments, prize money and such and forget the UFC... but he isn't the greatest Thai fighter... though maybe a good one. You probably don't know Muay Thai too well??? Or just like the guy too much???
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Ivan Menjivar has fought in both the MMA ring as well as in Thai Boxing he has openly said he will fight in any fighting arena.
He never backs down. Read the links Ive provided you might learn something.
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Oh gosh.... hmmm... that makes him the best does it now??? I just read them.... I still don't see how he's the best.... He seems like a great muay thai fighter, but not the best for his weight or anything like the best in the world.... also come on... cotoure or liddel would beat him down... Tough doesn't=invinsible.... no matter how much you like him.
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How would he steamroll over Chuck and Randy if he isn't even the UFC champ in his own weight class?
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Fist One does not have to be a UFC top competitor to issue a Challenge

If Chuck or Randy & Menjivar both agreed to a fight it would be perfectly ok.
Mejivar has fought in the UFC as well as in Apex & Muay Thai kickboxing tournaments. So if all parties agreed it could easily be possible.
And whatever your pathetic opinions maybe, I still believe Menjivar could easily beat both Chuck & Randy.
Menjivars skills are far superior than both these fighters. Ive watched all of them fight I have most of the UFC DVDS, King of the Cage DVDS Apex DVDS Muay Thai Kickboxing DVDS & loads more.
And watching Randy & Couture yes they are ok fighters but Menjivar is the
Fighter to beat them all.
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