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I think Ivan Menjivar although only a 145 pound fighter could destroy Chuck Lidell & Randy Couture. Love to see Menjivar fight Kimo.
His Muay Thai Fighting Skills & Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is just awsome too watch. I would have also liked to have seen my Hero Benny Urquidez fight Ivan Menjivar in his prime, Now this would have been an incredible fight. Truly believe Ivan Menjivar would have knocked Bruce Lee out in round 1. Ive added some links regarding this awsome fighter. I watched a few of his fights & even think Bas Rutten would have had a lot of trouble with this Guy. Dont let his size fool you he hits like a heavyweight & his speed & skill is just incredible. You have to see this guy fight to believe his ability. Just dont blink. Links below: http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/f...?fighterid=993 http://www.canadagrappling.com/competitor-294.html http://www.sherdog.com/news/interviews.asp?n_id=1716 http://www.elchasquilatino.com/habla...te_extremo.htm http://www.ultimefanatic.com/Entrevues/Menjivar_eng.htm http://www.impactmma.com/interviews/ivanmenjivar.htm http://apexfighting.com/news.html http://www.sherdog.com/news/search.a...njivar&n_cat=3 http://www.mmafighting.com/news/ucc.html http://www.maximumg.com/index.cfm?pageID=203 |
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I know he is in a different league but I like Cueng lee.
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So you're from Canada and believe and that a canadian fighter whose severly outweighted and has much less experience will beat two of the best LHW's out there, how original.
Matt Serra beat Ivan in the UFC already and I remember Menjivar fighting in one the canadian events in the 170 division, so he's more than 145. You know Lidell has got 20 mma fights and about the same amount in kickboxing too, as well as being a division one wrestler. Randy been wrestling for thirty years and just all around bad mofo, please no matter how much you like your countryman, whose originally from central america I might add, he's not going to beat Lidell or Randy. Not to mention, I doubt he's that great of a muay thai guy, unless, he's beating thai champs from thailand he's just probably average at muay thai at best. |
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Check out the links Ive provided.
And yes I truly believe he could beat the shit out of Randy Couture & Chuck Lidell. And his Muay Thai Skills are brillant. No Muay Thai Fighter could touch him. I stick by my opinion & Iam not even Canadian just happend to live in Canada. I have watched Chuck Lidell & Randy Couture Fight in many occassions & yes they are good fighters but I dont think they are the best. & Ivan Menjivar is currently a 145 pound fighter check links provided. |
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Ivan "Pride of El Slavador" Menjivar
Name Ivan Menjivar Nick Name Pride of El Slavador Record 15 - 4 - 0 (Win - Loss - Draw) Wins 7 (T)KOs (46.67%) 6 Submissions (40.00%) 2 Decisions (13.33%) Losses 1 (T)KOs (25.00%) 1 Submissions (25.00%) 2 Decisions (50.00%) Height 5'6 (168cm) Weight 145lbs (66kg) City Montreal State Quebec Country Canada Win Brandon Carlson Submission (Rear Naked Choke) KOTC-Edmonton 4/16/2005 Win Ryan Ackerman TKO APEX-Genesis 9/5/2004 Loss Matt Serra Decision (Unanimous) UFC 48-Payback 6/19/2004 Win Mike French Submission (Armbar) UGC 6-Ultimate Generation Combat 6 12/20/2003 Win Antoine Coutu TKO UGC 5-Ultimate Generation Combat 5 10/18/2003 Loss Vitor Ribeiro Decision (Unanimous) AFC 4-Absolute Fighting Championships 4 7/19/2003 Win Brandon Shuey Submission (Kneebar) WFF 4-Civil War 4/4/2003 Win Max Marin TKO MFC-Unplugged 11/29/2002 Win Andy Social Submission (Armbar) UCC PG 8-UCC Proving Ground 8 11/3/2002 Win Shane Rice TKO UCC 11-The Next Level 10/11/2002 Win Jay R. Palmer TKO (Slam) UCC Hawaii-Eruption in Hawaii 9/17/2002 Win Jeff Curran Decision (Unanimous) UCC 10-Battle for the Belts 2002 6/15/2002 Loss Jason Black Submission (Choke) UCC 8-Fast and Furious 3/30/2002 Win Andy Lalonde TKO UCC PG 4-UCC Proving Ground 4 3/9/2002 Loss Georges St-Pierre TKO UCC 7-Bad Boyz 1/25/2002 Win Dany Ward TKO UCC PG 2-UCC Proving Ground 2 12/16/2001 Win Francois Flibotte Submission (Rear Naked Choke) UCC PG 1-UCC Proving Ground 1 10/28/2001 Win J.F. Bolduc Decision (Split) UCC 4-Return Of The Super Strikers 5/12/2001 Win David Guigui Submission UCC 3-Battle for the Belts 1/27/2001 Link Below: http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/f...?fighterid=993 |
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Well, if he were the greatest Thai fighter in the world... he would be a strictly Thai fighter, win tournaments, prize money and such and forget the UFC... but he isn't the greatest Thai fighter... though maybe a good one. You probably don't know Muay Thai too well??? Or just like the guy too much???
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Ivan Menjivar has fought in both the MMA ring as well as in Thai Boxing he has openly said he will fight in any fighting arena.
He never backs down. Read the links Ive provided you might learn something. |
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Oh gosh.... hmmm... that makes him the best does it now??? I just read them.... I still don't see how he's the best.... He seems like a great muay thai fighter, but not the best for his weight or anything like the best in the world.... also come on... cotoure or liddel would beat him down... Tough doesn't=invinsible.... no matter how much you like him.
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If Chuck or Randy & Menjivar both agreed to a fight it would be perfectly ok.
Mejivar has fought in the UFC as well as in Apex & Muay Thai kickboxing tournaments. So if all parties agreed it could easily be possible. And whatever your pathetic opinions maybe, I still believe Menjivar could easily beat both Chuck & Randy. Menjivars skills are far superior than both these fighters. Ive watched all of them fight I have most of the UFC DVDS, King of the Cage DVDS Apex DVDS Muay Thai Kickboxing DVDS & loads more. And watching Randy & Couture yes they are ok fighters but Menjivar is the Fighter to beat them all. |
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