swisscom

Ever notice there are like 15+ threads with this name, or at least this exact topic reworded. Incase you didn't notice, I figured I'd point it out, and add another one

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RayD550

Yea it's like they just opened them over there or something. Maybe a few foreigners got together and said lets open a Muay Thai camp "I am sure the Thai people will like the sport" "Yea we can get many members"... Only joking

Almost any camp you find and go to will be a hundred times better then out side Thailand.

swisscom

You can't learn how to win, only to fight.
If all schools teach the same techniques (which they pretty much do) then there is no difference between Thailand and the rest of the world. Other than the location, the warm up, and combos.

You fight how you're trained to fight, the only possible "one ups" as you might call it, Thai's have on everyone else:

They know better combos? (Depends)
They train harder? (Depends)
They have a different stance? (Not really)
They've trained longer? (Probably)
They have a nerve removed from their brain to make them not feel pain? (Anything is possible)

It's like you're saying:
Oh.. I ate the fucking best pizza last night!
Have you ate pizza in Japan? Because they invented it you know.
No... I haven't
Well then you haven't ate the best fucking pizza!
... What makes their pizza so special?
Well they invented it...
... wtf, and?
Well...
Well what?
Well their ingredients are grown there I guess...
What about they way they cook it?
Noo... That's pretty much the same everywhere.
Uh..
It's the best okay. The fucking best. Now stfu.

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Aside from that, it is interesting to goto the place which started the art. They might have a different style, which you may like more than what you're used to, so then you say it's GODLY and they know everything. Who knows? I'm 17 and have never been to Thailand, plus I have only trained 1/2 a year, I probably don't know what the hell I'm talking about. Rant rant rant...

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Derekwl

Haha That post made me laugh

It is true though, just because it originated in South East Asia (I'm not well versed in the history of Muay Thai, but I do think that it originated from out of Thailand, Burma or Cambodia perhaps?), doesnt mean that its necessarily the best place in the world to train.

Take the Netherlands for example, TONS of Muay Thai gyms and awesome athletes coming out of them, e.g. Ramon Dekker, Thom Harnick (a while back, early 80's he founded the Dutch Muay Thai association)

I live on the West Coast of Canada, but have yet to find a gym with trainers that I would stay with for an extended period of time, granted there are only 2 dojos in Victoria, and I will try Vancouver, but I'm sure there are great trainers here too.

Not too mention the excellent seminars that come to various spots in the USA which can be compared to a week in Thailand for example.

Anyways point being, you can get an equal or greater (or lesser) education in Muay Thai outside of Thailand

Sorry for the rant!

Ps: Swisscom, where do you train?? Do you train with Mike Miles?

RayD550

Derekwl I am sorry to say but Muay Thai did come from Thailand please do your research first before you make any other statements.

Now Swiss I was going to really go on and on about how much you don't know what you are talking about but then I read that you have been training for 6 only months.

OctaviousBP

Hi Ray,

There are a few academics who would disagree... Vincent Giordano for one. To be honest I'm not really sure myself, as I haven't researched it in-depthly, but I would be quite curious to know. I think it all comes down to who you ask... but it would certainly make for some interesting Anthropological research.

When I was in Angkor, I took some pictures of the bas-reliefs around the main temple, and they had some interesting depictions of martial arts. Makes one wonder...

Derekwl

RayD550,

You don't have to get condescending, because I have heard RUMOURS that Thai boxing is simply a late form of Lethwei, or Burmese Boxing. I did not say I KNOW that it did not come from Thailand. Please re-read my post before and notice the word I THINK in the brackets.

By the way, does this thread really have a point?

swisscom

To RayD550:
How much can I be wrong? I want you to expand, just so I know. I think I covered every aspect in my post, I don't think you can do it, please try.

To Derekwl:
Yeah I train with Miles
No there is no point to this thread.

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Derekwl

One more thing RayD550, what makes you think that there aren't McCamps in Thailand?

Think about it, if you are in Italy for example, and you open up a Pizza place, foreigners will come and eat there for the pure fact that you opened your pizza place in Italy and not in Siberia or something.

Same with Thailand, many foreigners would join a camp that has a "Grandmaster Muay Thai artist" just because they believe the name.

swisscom

I went out to eat with one of my instructors today, I asked him this question about training in thailand and why is it so good. He replied:

Compare it to hockey in Canada, we have the best hockey program in the world. It's not very often you see someone from the other side of the world come down and destroy our players. It's the same with Muay Thai in Thailand, it's just what they do.

Alright, this was a good enough answer for me.

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OctaviousBP

I would also add that, rather than talking about Muay Thai on the Internet, they actually do it...

RayD550

I could not have said it better.

Swiss, first why don't you outline your normal day of training. So we all can learn form you vast knowledge

Derekwl you are right threre are McCamps all over the place this is very true

swisscom

uh.. 10 min sprint to the train station
5 min jog to the gym when im off of the train
the warmup (15-20 min)
which ever class i goto (usually an hour)
sparring (used to a lot, haven't had much time for it latley)
hit bags for a little bit
walk to the train station
jog home.

Hahaha, that's my typical training day. =D

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swisscom

it's because they dont have internet.

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OctaviousBP

Wow I hope that was a joke...