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http://store.titleboxing.com/thaisheav1.html Also what should I fill it with. Just chopped clothes? What kinda clothes would be best?
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I don't really know a lot about heavybags, but when I saw BOLD BLACK COLOR, I almost wanted to buy it myself! Sarcasm aside, if it says it doesn't move when you pound the shit out of it (which most longer bags dont) I'd say it'll probably be worth the money. Then again, I know fucking nothing on thye subject.
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This is at least the 3rd time I have explained how to stuff a heavy bag. So, here goes: Ideally you want the bag as soft as possible, so you will kick it more. My bags I stuff with newspaper in the bottom, then rags to the top, an average banana bag weighing about 130 pounds. Ajarn Sirisute told me I should fill the bottom 18" with sand, then top it off with straw. I have never done that, so cannot personally vouch for this. The idea being you want your kick to travel as far as possible, then you want to have to use your butt muscles to pull your leg back. Bags that are not stuffed properly will push your leg back with the rebound, and contribute to you developing a slower second kick than is necessary for successfully scoring with your multiple kick combinations. Kicks do not bounce off people. The orange bags we built for the PNWMTC are 24" diameter (regulation is 16") and are simply filled with sawdust. Before the camp begins we lay them on their sides and pound the crap out of them so they are forgiving, but by day 5 they are starting to settle a bit too much. The idea of a banana bag is not to gain weight, you can do that by just filling any bag with dirt. The idea is so the bag provides continuous resistance throughout the total range of your kick by dragging on the floor, and the length allows for both lower and upper attacks to be used in the same combination. Anyone who has been to camps in Thailand knows there are usually a series of S hooks, of various lengths, so the fighter can hang his bag how he needs it for the particular combination he is working. Just like most modern boxing gyms have forgotten that a bag should be hung so you punch the bottom, most kickboxing gyms hang their bags so they will swing. This is for footwork drills. Unfortunately there is no book or DVD available to explain all the different ways to hang a bag, and the multitude of drills which require the various hangings, and angles the bag should rest upon the floor. That is the value of us old guys, and the usefulness of forums like this, should anyone choose to listen.
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