poetics5

hey just wondering if anybodys trained in both muay thai and kali-arnis-escrima, and which they felt was more benifical - i'm a primary kali guy, that will never change but just thought i'd get some input. i'm training in mt and just wanted some insight from others who have trained in both. also how do you feel, if any, that they complament each other, etc.

ryangruhn

I think both are just as beneficial. Kali works great footwork for MT and Boxing while the power mechanics of MT can be translated into Kali. I have been training in both along with JFGF, Boxing and CSW for about 15 years and can’t say enough how important cross training is. If you view everything as “fighting” then regardless of the system you will be able to adapt your knowledge to what ever it is you train in.

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george stando

Works together pretty well. I did kali for a long time but gave it up for the pure combat form of krabi krabong which is integrates and upholds the principles and fighting methods of bare knuckle into muay thai well very.

Little Apple

I've done a tiney bit of both, and I feel like they fill each other in nicely. Different flavors deffinatly, but I really like that.

treelizard

I was lucky enough to meet a Muay Thai instructor who showed me how to work MT clinches into some FMA drills (clinches in Hubud Lubud! awesome!!!)... Pretty awesome. I like the conditioning MT offers and also kicking the shit out of things, but of course I like weapons in FMA. They work really well together.

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bigboywasim

I been taking MT for a while now and just started to take Kali. Both are some of the best arts you can take in my opinion. The MT for striking and Kali for the weapons. The footwork is beautiful in FMA. A lot of the strikes work well with MT. You can learn a great deal from both. I would stick with both of them.

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bigred389

A lot of FMA empty hand concepts will carry over pretty nicely through Muay Thai, IMO. You learn to move better, position better, how to shut down the other guy's offense.
At the same time, Muay Thai is good training for the empty hand of FMA as well...it'll give you substance behind the shots.

As for weapons, I think that's self-explanatory when Muay Thai simply has no weapons training.
I'm of the opinion Muay Thai has taught me how to hit somebody hard, while FMA has taught me the subtler nasties...like where to hit to make it hurt, how to mess with his body mechanics, etc.

chalambok

I must take exception to bigred389. Muay Thai descended from Krabi-Krabong, which is infinitely more suitable and complimentary to muay Thai than the FMAs. Our triangles are much more like a thin wedge, and we try to stay as close to the edge as we can, much like raising a piece of machinery to height by using two shims. Krabi-Krabong, like its child muay Thai, is all about forward pressure, even in defense. To learn either without the other is to learn but half the art. There are martial artists who have studied extensively in both, ask them. A prime example is Ajarn Dan Inosanto, if he is willing to answer.

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William

I've posted on this subject a number of times in the past on these forums.

Chalambok's point is well taken. If you've trained MT and then get a taste of KK, you will know and feel immediately where the similarities are. Obviously the MT technique comes from the KK movement. If you can find someone to train KK with....it's like peas in a pod. They key there is finding someone...it ain't easy unless you are in Oregon.

This is not to say that MT and the FFA's can't go well together. They can and they do. The fluid movement, footwork, and bridging and ranging tactics from the FFA's, added with the raw power and effectiveness of MT produces a different, yet highly effective animal. imho of course.


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