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Old 10-30-2006, 09:45 PM   #16 (permalink)
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o and what's the idea of pointing out that tkd isn't usually practiced in the ring? is it that the tkd guy had no business in the ring with the mt guy?
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You don't say.
I had my first taste of it about 17 years ago.
... Let me guess, that also happened to be your last taste, right?
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Troll Virus, did *you* watch the video?
I bet he didn't. He just ruins this site.
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i it seemed the only concession to mt rules was to allow kick catches, while 3 staples of the mt fighter - knees, elbows, and the clinch - appeared to be prohibited. that's what leads me to say this match was more tkd than mt.
You've got two main types of TKD.
ITF and WTF;
They don't allow catching the leg.
They don't allow kicking the supporting leg.
They don't fight in a boxing ring.
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You've got two main types of TKD.
ITF and WTF;
They don't allow catching the leg.
They don't allow kicking the supporting leg.
They don't fight in a boxing ring.
ok well as i said the fighting in the ring part is kinda null. i'm sure the tkd guy wasn't held at gunpoint to fight this fight, so i'm sure he's tried out his tkd in the ring.
so the format of this fight had two major differences from the rules of tkd and three from the rules of mt. that equals more tkd than mt, i dunno how much clearer to state it.
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Old 10-31-2006, 01:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
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make it four for mt, i forgot punches to the face.
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ok well as i said the fighting in the ring part is kinda null.
Actually, it's not.
If you've ever competed in either format, youll know they are completely different.
Going from a non contained sporting arena to a ring is a major difference.



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i'm sure the tkd guy wasn't held at gunpoint to fight this fight, so i'm sure he's tried out his tkd in the ring.
It'd be interesting to know the story, but like I said, my guess is, it's a 'pre-arranged' friendly or exhibition.


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so the format of this fight had two major differences from the rules of tkd and three from the rules of mt.
Look.
Maybe go and look up the rules on each before commenting further eh?
Myself, I've competed with both and I emphasize 'competed' because they are both 'sports'.
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... Let me guess, that also happened to be your last taste, right?
Were that the case, I'd have said "my only taste".

What's your own experience in either TKD or MT?
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Actually, it's not.
If you've ever competed in either format, youll know they are completely different.
Going from a non contained sporting arena to a ring is a major difference.
excuse me on this one, it seems i've been reading your comments about the ring incorrectly. i thought when you were talking about competing in a ring you were referring to the difference between point fighting and full contact, but it sounds like you're talking about the physical difference between the design of the ring and the mat.




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Look.
Maybe go and look up the rules on each before commenting further eh?
Myself, I've competed with both and I emphasize 'competed' because they are both 'sports'.
ok, i did. everything i read only reinforced that this format is more restrictive of the muay thai skillset than it is of tkd. oh well, it's just an opinion.
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excuse me on this one, it seems i've been reading your comments about the ring incorrectly. i thought when you were talking about competing in a ring you were referring to the difference between point fighting and full contact, but it sounds like you're talking about the physical difference between the design of the ring and the mat.
No.
They are completely different environments.
Try them out for yourself.






ok, i did. everything i read only reinforced that this format is more restrictive of the muay thai skillset than it is of tkd. oh well, it's just an opinion.
If you have indeed read the rules for both, then you're in an excellent position to put forward ideas on what you have read.
If you have no experience in MT and/or TKD you're on pretty shaky ground.
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make it four for mt, i forgot punches to the face.
Punches to the face werent allowed in that match up just in case you didnt know.
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Were that the case, I'd have said "my only taste".

What's your own experience in either TKD or MT?
Believe it or not, i did TKD from 1st grade to the end of 2nd grade. I even got a blackbelt after being a "red and black" belt for a while(its a belt thats half black on the top and red on the bottom). I was terrible at sparring and forms. I even used to do pretty bad sometimes i would cry. I only remember a couple times i sparred for real and i did poorly. I just didnt have "know how" and it just wasnt natural to me. TKD did nothing for me.

Since i started highschool, i have been practising Thai boxing only occasionally with a family member. I know that doesnt really mean much but its a good place to start since my parents will definetly not let me sign up at any kind of boxing school. When im a little bit older i will definetly do that though.

BTW, i love how you havent even defended any of the points that we 'attacked' you on. Check the first page....

Its also very slick how you diverted the attention to other topics on this thread.
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Actually, it's not.
If you've ever competed in either format, youll know they are completely different.
Going from a non contained sporting arena to a ring is a major difference.
Yet a Thai boxer will STILL kick the beejeezus out of the TKDer's limbs in a non contained sporting arena.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...uay+thai&hl=en


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It'd be interesting to know the story, but like I said, my guess is, it's a 'pre-arranged' friendly or exhibition.
Lmao, how do you know that? How the hell is it pre-aranged and how the fuk was it friendly?


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Look.
Maybe go and look up the rules on each before commenting further eh?
Myself, I've competed with both and I emphasize 'competed' because they are both 'sports'.
Look, we know theyre sports... And it doesnt matter what kind rules ITF and WTF(< lol) have, theyre both restrictive as hell in the techniques you can use.
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Punches to the face werent allowed in that match up just in case you didnt know.
yea that's what i was sayin', it was one of the restrictions that effected the muay thai stylist and not the tkd
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Believe it or not, i did TKD from 1st grade to the end of 2nd grade. I even got a blackbelt after being a "red and black" belt for a while(its a belt thats half black on the top and red on the bottom). I was terrible at sparring and forms. I even used to do pretty bad sometimes i would cry. I only remember a couple times i sparred for real and i did poorly. I just didnt have "know how" and it just wasnt natural to me. TKD did nothing for me.
So would you say you are up to the standard of the TKD exponent in the clip?

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Since i started highschool, i have been practising Thai boxing only occasionally with a family member. I know that doesnt really mean much
You're almost right.
It means zip.




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BTW, i love how you havent even defended any of the points that we 'attacked' you on. Check the first page....
Who would 'we' be?

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Its also very slick how you diverted the attention to other topics on this thread.
Why thank you.
I seem to be utilising skills I was unaware of.
Could it be that your posts are kinda irrelevant?

Hope you're working hard at school.
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