PlasmaShock

Troll Virus

Interesting.

Where they are both MT people with identical sport training for that sport environment, then the guy we see wearing the TKD Dobok would win.

Where they are both TKD people with identical sport training for that sport environment, then the guy wearing the TKD Dobok would win.

Winning a sports contest of this type proves what exactly?

The guy in TKD is by far the better athlete in this comparison, while completely out of his depth in terms of the rules of the sport?

7r14ngL3Ch0k3

Trollvirus, I really dont understand your post.

Ok, are you saying that if both combatents had identical MT training, the one with the extra TKD experiance would win?

. What the fuk? Can you please explain what you mean? Does their outfit make a difference or something lol?

Uhh, that Thai boxing, even when its restricted to use fists, elbows, clinch, knees, that its STILL more effective than TKD in any kind of stand up striking match... unless its that gay ass semi contact point sparring.

What do you mean? Please explain further. I would really like to know.

Troll Virus

No!
What I'm saying is, in this instance, the TKD dude is clearly a better athlete and fighter (not that the standard of either is high), but out of his depth in terms of the form of sporting context (in this case a 'low grade' MT match).



More effective as a sporting format against those who practice another sporting format?
I don't see what 'Semi-contact' sparring has to do with either, but you'll no doubt explain.

This all comes down to those who believe styles make people and that sporting contests prove one over the other.

If you could prove either, then you'd do so.

7r14ngL3Ch0k3

How is the TKD guy clearly a better athlete than the MT guy? Or do you mean the TKDer is a better athlete out of most other TKDers???

More effective as a sporting format against those who practice another sporting format?

I dont know what you mean by that sorry... please explain further.


This all comes down to those who believe styles make people and that sporting contests prove one over the other.

But it does!!! Muay Thai is obviously better than TKD! Accept it already!!!

cowpaste

Errr...I don't really understand what you're trying to say either, Troll Virus. How is the TKD guy a better athlete?

I'm not even going to go into the TKD vs. Muay Thai debate, but have you even seen Muay Thai training? It's not exactly easy.....

Troll Virus

Have you watched the video?
The TKD player is clearly fitter and moves better.
It's not rocket science to take down someone standing on one leg.

It was actually a question directed to you, rather than a statement /_\C.


In what way?

Ignoring the setting...
If this was a TKD match, then the MT guy would have been disqualified.
If the MT guy had anything like a brain, he'd have realised the TKD guy had no clue how to use his hands and chinned him out in 10 seconds.
Point is, they are both sports.

Troll Virus

You don't say.
I had my first taste of it about 17 years ago.

The_Judo_Jibboo

i don't really see how you could argue any circumstance where the MT guy loses this one. this format is much more tkd than mt and he still wins. i mean, with clinch and knees (let alone elbows) this would have got downright ugly for the tkd guy fast. and i'm only talking about this vid, i'm not getting into the whole art vs. art deal.

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So the real message here is that in a SD situation you should always take off your trousers...
-jubaji

Troll Virus

I'd say it's a very amateur (perhaps even 'friendly') pre-arranged match.
To say the format is TKD is pretty ridiculous though.
TKD is by and large a sport.
It's never competed in a ring.
Sweeps and take downs are not part of that sport.

How can you say the format is more TKD than MT?

7r14ngL3Ch0k3

So what is your idea of TKD format? Is it that gay ass semi contact point sparring or no?

Oh, and there was no pre arrangement to this match. Im sure both combatents wanted to hurt eachother with the certain strikes that were allowed.... the TKD guy just happened to be on the recieving end of them.

7r14ngL3Ch0k3

Attention ladies and gentleman:

You heard it here first! The TKD player is CLEARLY FITTER and MOVES BETTER.

If you had anything like a brain, you'd have realised that the rules for this contest prohibited punches to the face... One of the many weapons that the Thai boxer was restricted to use.

Umm, we get that they are both sports. Thanks for for clearing that up.

Thai Bri

Why is it that every thread TV is on goes wrong?

I call troll.

cowpaste

Yes I have watched the video. How does it "clearly" show that the TKD is "fitter and moves better?" Is it because he moves around more? What that hell does that have to do with anything? I'm sure the Muay Thai guy could have bounced around the ring too if he wanted.

Then you mention take downs. When does either competitor initiate a take down? All I saw was the TKD guy falling down due to hard leg kicks. Troll Virus, did *you* watch the video?

The_Judo_Jibboo

i think the reason the match may have appeared 'friendly' is because the mt guy was incredibly relaxed the whole time. it didn't look like he ever felt he was in any danger of getting hit with anything punishing.

i said the format was more tkd than mt, it's right there in the line you quoted from my post. maybe i'm wrong, it's certainly happened before. but are there any techniques commonly used in tkd competition that were prohibited in this match? didn't look like it to me. on the other hand, it seemed the only concession to mt rules was to allow kick catches, while 3 staples of the mt fighter - knees, elbows, and the clinch - appeared to be prohibited. that's what leads me to say this match was more tkd than mt.

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"When the enemy comes, welcome him. When he goes, send him on his way."


So the real message here is that in a SD situation you should always take off your trousers...
-jubaji