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Old 06-06-2007, 09:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm just wondering about everybodies thaiboxing classes. My Kru has a ranking system that has to do with the color of your arm band. He doesn't really keep up with it much but does test occasionally. The thing that has been bothering me here lately is the class schedule or lack there of. When we come to class some we do the pads and conditioning every day, but some days we'll spar, other days we will learn technique, others is clinch work. This I'm sure is typical in most classes but here we never know what day we're doing what. It's just whatever he feels like doing that night. Also you'll have some students who are lower ranked teaching the higher ranked students some techniques that they learned before at another class. I just figured the higher ranked students should already know this. It's like there is no curriculam involved. Is this normal or is it just me ? I'm just frustrated by the lack of being organized. I've been at this school for years off and on. I just feel there is or atleast should be more to it than this. Please tell me if i'm being to paranoid or if I should look for another school. Also explain some of your experiences.
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Its normal, especially if you train with a Thai person... The important thing is improving your technical skill and fighting skills. As long as that's going on, you're good!
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I haven't been a lot of places, but I'd agree with Kuhn Kao: as long as you're learning no worries. Of course if the place you're at just doesn't jive with you, nothing is stopping you from looking around at other options. You know, just in case there's something around that fits you better.
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I'm just wondering about everybodies thaiboxing classes. My Kru has a ranking system that has to do with the color of your arm band. He doesn't really keep up with it much but does test occasionally. The thing that has been bothering me here lately is the class schedule or lack there of. When we come to class some we do the pads and conditioning every day, but some days we'll spar, other days we will learn technique, others is clinch work. This I'm sure is typical in most classes but here we never know what day we're doing what. It's just whatever he feels like doing that night. Also you'll have some students who are lower ranked teaching the higher ranked students some techniques that they learned before at another class. I just figured the higher ranked students should already know this. It's like there is no curriculam involved. Is this normal or is it just me ? I'm just frustrated by the lack of being organized. I've been at this school for years off and on. I just feel there is or atleast should be more to it than this. Please tell me if i'm being to paranoid or if I should look for another school. Also explain some of your experiences.
You´re worrying too much about every body else , And about the grades Do you want to get the black arm band? There is nothing sure or predictable in MT match , you´ve got to work with what you ´ve got .If still you don´t like it find a better gym , or do karate. It´s good.
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Also you'll have some students who are lower ranked teaching the higher ranked students some techniques that they learned before at another class.


I just figured the higher ranked students should already know this.

I've been at this school for years off and on.

I just feel there is or atleast should be more to it than this. .
Read between the lines and you've answered your own questions. Good instructors who are dedicated and organized are hard to find. Good students who are dedicated and organized are even harder to find.

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My Kru is a good teacher and my skills are good,I guess sometimes I feel like something is missing though. As opposed to the black arm band, that is really not the issue with me. I rarely even do the grade test, I'm more concerned with ability.

One problem I have is sparring. We tend to go a little harder than most gyms do and in practice even though we're going hard I don't get the adrenaline rush that I would if I was fighting, which in turn doesn't mask a lot of the pain from my injuries. Does anybody else have this problem ?

Also I have a bad self confidence problem. I've had one Fight in the ring and I won that but I still doubt myself a lot. My Kru will say how good my skills are but sometimes I feel he's just selling me to myself, if that makes sense ! I think this is where most of my original frustration comes from. Has anyone ever have any simular issues that they have dealt with ?
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I agree with all of them but I'd just be happy that you have plenty of people to punch and hit repedatively. My class is kind of dwindling numbers.
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My Kru is a good teacher and my skills are good,I guess sometimes I feel like something is missing though. As opposed to the black arm band, that is really not the issue with me. I rarely even do the grade test, I'm more concerned with ability.

One problem I have is sparring. We tend to go a little harder than most gyms do and in practice even though we're going hard I don't get the adrenaline rush that I would if I was fighting, which in turn doesn't mask a lot of the pain from my injuries. Does anybody else have this problem ?

Also I have a bad self confidence problem. I've had one Fight in the ring and I won that but I still doubt myself a lot. My Kru will say how good my skills are but sometimes I feel he's just selling me to myself, if that makes sense ! I think this is where most of my original frustration comes from. Has anyone ever have any simular issues that they have dealt with ?
To win is a good thing ,to think that everything you´re doing is o.k. is bad , you can always get better , if you have a lot of injuries , then you still have something to learn though you cannot avoid it totally, you can have only a few , and don´t worry about the rush everything falls into place on the ring . learn how to concentrate in everything you are doing. i think you are in the right way , just focus on your mindset.
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You can do privates if you have the dough. This way he has all attention on you and your technique and you'll probably progress faster instead of trying to work techniques out with other students, get it straight from the source. Then you wouldn't have to look on at others asking your partner, "Am I doing this right?"

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Marino,
Will has as much to do with masking pain as does adrenaline. A big part, if not the biggest part, of overcoming pain and building up your tolerance to it is found in sheer willpower. You have to develop in your own mind and heart the will to not show pain. Refuse to allow even a hint of it to creep across your features when you train or fight. Never, ever show the other guy what hurts, what's tired, or what's less than 100%. Just convince yourself that you just can't be fazed. I'm not trying to be esoteric or anything. It really is a matter of willpower. You don't need training to be just like a fight. Your mindset is enough.
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I have found American instructors are far more rigid in their lesson plans than those of Thai instructors. Honestly I prefer the less rigid game plan.
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Does any of your gyms talk strategies ? Mine doesn't ! I think you should also teach strategies like circle away from the power hand or how to defend against different types of opponents, counter puncher, aggressive fighter, taller, shorter, and cutting off the ring. This is just a few examples. Maybe I'm just looking for issues at my gym, but I just feel I'm missing something out of my training.
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Yes the gym I go to teaches a lot of strategy. When we show techniques we'll also relate them to the fight game so the students develop a deeper understanding.
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