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Old 02-16-2008, 04:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Posting this footage from the 1920's. I recon its the oldest footage of Thai boxing in the world. The style is alot different than I've seen in Thailand. The clip has an ad for the film Fight or Flight in the middle and then shows the remainder of the fight at the end. The "Hands" style of the older stuff seems a bit closer to Queensbury boxing. They also seem to jump around a bit more. What do you think? - Enjoy


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Thais aren't exactly known for their pugilism skills.
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well also remember how much Muay Thai has changed in the last 50 years even. It's adapted a lot and absorbed a good deal of western boxing technique as it's made the transition from a weapon art to a bare knuckles art to the gloved ring sport it is today.
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Posting this footage from the 1920's. I recon its the oldest footage of Thai boxing in the world. The style is alot different than I've seen in Thailand. The clip has an ad for the film Fight or Flight in the middle and then shows the remainder of the fight at the end. The "Hands" style of the older stuff seems a bit closer to Queensbury boxing. They also seem to jump around a bit more. What do you think? - Enjoy

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I think there is older footage than that. That is in a ring. There is footage with bare knuckle outside if I am not mistaken I have to check.
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Does anyone know of any other early ninteen hundreds thai boxing / boxing / fighting footage. Be nice to see other stuff !
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The "Hands" style of the older stuff seems a bit closer to Queensbury boxing.
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at this time, two european powers ruled southeast asia to either side of thaliand; england to the west and france to the east. at this time, european fighters still competed against the thai on a fairly regular basis (mostly impromptu contests). there was no doubt a "cross pollenation" of techniques.

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at this time, two european powers ruled southeast asia to either side of thaliand; england to the west and france to the east. at this time, european fighters still competed against the thai on a fairly regular basis (mostly impromptu contests). there was no doubt a "cross pollenation" of techniques.

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Man, I just love the historical/evolution of a martial art suff - thanks!
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Cool, I can see this thread going all political.
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figaro, while political in the direct sense (2 powers occupied), there is no attempt to moralize.

simply put, you had a massive number of fighters on both sides fighting in the same matches and likely many of them trained together (at least briefly). as the fight industry would become more commercialized over time, the rules would change a bit, and the sport would evolve.

these days, many camps are teaching jiujitsu (muay brasil) as more and more MMA fighters attend the camps to improve thier striking. eventually, muaythai may very much resemble sanshou or mma.

again, no politics, just pragmatism.

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Man, I just love the historical/evolution of a martial art suff - thanks!
hello,

any time! you know, it will be interesting, 50 years from now, we will be telling "modern fighters" about the good old days...

"there was a time when we didn't even have lightsabres or power armor!"

hahahahahahahahahaha!!! combatives make a lot more sense in with the historical context to help explain them.

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Thanks Mike,
Didnt that happen in boxing in the 50's. They didnt really allow black boxers compet professionally until then and then the sport changed dramatically. Who was that guy that was big then?

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Thanks - I stand corrected. I thought it was the boxing comissions that controlled the sport at the time. Wasnt it once deemed a "Gentlemans sport" probably more so in England.
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I'd say theres a Fat chance of getting footage from the 1890's in boxing.
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