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Old 04-29-2008, 02:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 04-29-2008, 04:00 PM   #17 (permalink)
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ok, i wasnt aware of them every training twice a day. As far as i know its been once a day always.
The French have done well, so have the dutch, i dont have a list of fighters. Just at many shows ive been to ive seen dutch and british and french fighters for that matter stepping in the ring and doing the business on many occasions. The dutch stood out for me, and im half dutch myself but thats besides the point

My personal opinion is that morning runs are great and doing weights or some functional strenght training in the morning is great and then doing boxing/thai boxing in the evening. 2 sessions of thai boxing a day is not worth it.

Quite frankly i think i could take a thai and train him in functional strength and stamina in the morning and then send him to a thai boxing camp in the evening and hes smash the hell out of the guys he would have fought normally simply because hes made better use of his training time. I would of course use far more rest periods as well. 3 days off a week or so with a better eating plan. Of course he wouldnt fit in thier weight classes. but thats really my point too. Why would you want to fit into their 55kg or there abouts weight classes when you could be 65kg and ripped.
Competition for competitions sake is where boxing and thai boxing CAN fall down. I think we should be producing the best fighters. If that means they fight in a higher weight category then i think thats a good thing.

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Ahh its the half Dutch in you coming out Ghost,Dutch pride LOL.

I cant comment on the benifits of using weights,better nutrition etc etc to make a better fighter,all i do know is that the regime they have in Thailand now works now,and that there are no fighters of any other country that can compete with the thais at stadium level in the lighter weights ie 48-54 kgs,the rest is hypothetical until some one comes along and proves it consistantly,not saying that it cant be done,just that it hasnt been done.
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Ahh its the half Dutch in you coming out Ghost,Dutch pride LOL.

I cant comment on the benifits of using weights,better nutrition etc etc to make a better fighter,all i do know is that the regime they have in Thailand now works now,and that there are no fighters of any other country that can compete with the thais at stadium level in the lighter weights ie 48-54 kgs,the rest is hypothetical until some one comes along and proves it consistantly,not saying that it cant be done,just that it hasnt been done.
Hey Brother,

I think the focus of this thread, and possibly Ghost's assertions are, can it be done as part of a healthy, balanced lifestyle?

No doubt in my mind that if you want to bring it down to the hardcore efficiency, the Thai's have proved time and time again that they have it.

But I think what we are talking about here is who has the most balanced approach. Thats kind of where I was coming from.

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Agreed. The thread was about whether or not anyone ever found any benefit in resting.

I think the unequivocable and consistently proven answer to that is "Yes!"
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I noticed the same effect back when I was training in BJJ, while i don't have a schedule near as rigorous as some of the people here I definitely noticed improvement in my technique after a break such as a vacation.

Maybe the lessons are absorbed more rapidly while you have time to step back and analyse things from a broader perspective?
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Hey Brother,

I think the focus of this thread, and possibly Ghost's assertions are, can it be done as part of a healthy, balanced lifestyle?

No doubt in my mind that if you want to bring it down to the hardcore efficiency, the Thai's have proved time and time again that they have it.

But I think what we are talking about here is who has the most balanced approach. Thats kind of where I was coming from.

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The Dutch train alot more then just once a day.
Here's the weekly training regiment of Melvin 'no mercy' Manhoef of Mikes Gym in Amsterdam.
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you never wanna overdo it, if you do, your immune system suffers, your testosterone levels go down, and if you have a woman you won't be able to "perform" as well of you're too tired.
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