The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Bill_1 · 07-24-2008, 06:16 PM

Hey,

I'm 13 years old. I get picked on a lot by older kids. I can beat up anyone in my grade in a fight, I have no problem with any kids in my grade though. Anyway, I am on the starting team for wrestling at my school and can out wrestle most of those older kids. But they can out box me..Should I do kickboxing? Will it help that much in a fight? I would enjoy doing boxing tournaments and such..I have a punching bag also.

Solidarity,

William

ltindiandaeng · 07-25-2008, 12:55 AM

Yes since you can already wrestle,it would be very good if you could box also.Then you would be ready for whatever the other kid was using.karate,kickboxing,tae kwon do would all teach you how to puch and kick.Meanwhile try to figure out how to avoud all these fights,if you can.

Bill_1 · 07-25-2008, 01:11 AM

Thanks for the advice.

I'm thinking of joining this place.. Chicago Mixed Martial Arts Self Defense Jiu Jitsu

rvafighter · 07-25-2008, 12:10 PM

I'm going to sound like a parent...I don't mean to, and you'll 'get it' one day....but the solution to older kids picking on you is not learning to be a better fighter. How old are the "older kids?" 15? 16? Its probably hard to see from your own point of view, but those kids picking on you are idiots, immature, and aren't worth the time and effort you are putting in worrying about it.

But to answer your question, Muay Thai in its purest form has its limitations in a street fight...it will teach you to strike better but will not teach you to take on an opponent that is working off of a totally different set of rules (or no rules at all).

But if beating people up is your reason for wanting to learn Muay Thai, I'd recommend that you hold off a couple of years, as Muay Thai is formed around the concept of RESPECT that takes a certain level of maturity to handle. Properly executed Muay Thai strikes can be physically devastating to an untrained opponent and regardless of who started the fight, you may get yourself into more trouble than you asked for if you do any major damage.

I like that you are interested in Muay Thai, but want to make sure that you are doing it for the right reasons.

Bill_1 · 07-25-2008, 01:35 PM

Oh yes, these kids are 15. 2 years older than me. I don't want to beat people up. I want to train in fighting. Fighting interests me. It releases anger and other emotions.

Tant01 · 07-25-2008, 03:29 PM

I'll be glad when school starts again...

Bill_1 · 07-25-2008, 04:33 PM

This was going on during school also..whenever I would walk upstairs they would knock down my books and push me into lockers. 2v1

Tant01 · 07-25-2008, 05:21 PM

Sweet.... I loved it when bullies made me the victim...

I got expelled from HS twice for fighting.

Good times!

LOL

Scott Bolinger · 07-27-2008, 09:53 PM

having to deal with bullies, can be pretty tough to do. But you’re better off not wasting your time with these guys. Being part of a boxing club, could help you with your sport as well as getting you hooked up with people that can help you get more established as a professional athlete. And hopefully give you some positive thinking role models.

fighting at school, has it's consequences. such as getting expelled, trying to find a different school that would take a kid that's considered violent, paying medical expense on someone that you fought and injured, juvenile court, being sent to group homes for a continued violent history, loss of license to box, loss of illegibility to participate in any Olympic games, loss of pro-license, and I’ve also seen kids lose grants for college.

so if you think fighting at school is fun, just start checking off these things, because eventually you won't be eligible for them.

The MMA group, could be a good outlet and my have some good insight on how to handle these issues. But if your wanting to try and make a career, or just have fun in the sport but not take it too seriously, there are different steps, areas of participation that you can do. If you're trying to go into MMA you'll still want to keep up with your wrestling. Know and understand the various techniques as well as know the routines for developing tone and endurance. That'll help out some in the other arts. Make a scrapbook if need be. But in your off season from wrestling, gi / no-gi grappling is climbing the charts. I'm seeing more and more tournaments with that type of competition. You'll just have to add submissions. But a thing to also think about, is if you participate in MMA, even as a amateur, that will take away your eligibility to participates in USA Boxing. And if you're wanting to do some amateur boxing, but participate in karate, kickboxing, grappling competition, you'll want to make sure it's sanctioned by some sanctioning body, so you don't lose your license or amateur status. But if in doubt, get of the boxing commissioner for your state, or call the head office in Colorado Springs. Website is at
USA Boxing - Home . A lot of the competition is ok to do as long as your not being paid to do it. That would be under prize fighting.

the tick · 07-28-2008, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill_1

This was going on during school also..whenever I would walk upstairs they would knock down my books and push me into lockers. 2v1

You could always report them of course.

Bill_1 · 07-28-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by the tick

You could always report them of course.

Thank you but that's not an option..there not at my school anymore anyway.

the tick · 07-28-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill_1

Thank you but that's not an option..there not at my school anymore anyway.

So what are they doing at your school shoving you into lockers if they aren't at your school anymore?

Bill_1 · 07-28-2008, 04:11 PM

That was last year, it is now summer. So they will be going to high school next year.

07-24-2008, 06:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bill_1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thinking of Kickboxing Hey, I'm 13 years old. I get picked on a lot by older kids. I can beat up anyone in my grade in a fight, I have no problem with any kids in my grade though. Anyway, I am on the starting team for wrestling at my school and can out wrestle most of those older kids. But they can out box me..Should I do kickboxing? Will it help that much in a fight? I would enjoy doing boxing tournaments and such..I have a punching bag also. Solidarity, William

07-25-2008, 03:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,935 Groans: 0 Groaned at 15 Times in 10 Posts	I'll be glad when school starts again... __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

07-25-2008, 05:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,935 Groans: 0 Groaned at 15 Times in 10 Posts	Sweet.... I loved it when bullies made me the victim... I got expelled from HS twice for fighting. Good times! LOL __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

07-27-2008, 09:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
Scott Bolinger Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nebraska Posts: 354 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	having to deal with bullies, can be pretty tough to do. But you’re better off not wasting your time with these guys. Being part of a boxing club, could help you with your sport as well as getting you hooked up with people that can help you get more established as a professional athlete. And hopefully give you some positive thinking role models. fighting at school, has it's consequences. such as getting expelled, trying to find a different school that would take a kid that's considered violent, paying medical expense on someone that you fought and injured, juvenile court, being sent to group homes for a continued violent history, loss of license to box, loss of illegibility to participate in any Olympic games, loss of pro-license, and I’ve also seen kids lose grants for college. so if you think fighting at school is fun, just start checking off these things, because eventually you won't be eligible for them. The MMA group, could be a good outlet and my have some good insight on how to handle these issues. But if your wanting to try and make a career, or just have fun in the sport but not take it too seriously, there are different steps, areas of participation that you can do. If you're trying to go into MMA you'll still want to keep up with your wrestling. Know and understand the various techniques as well as know the routines for developing tone and endurance. That'll help out some in the other arts. Make a scrapbook if need be. But in your off season from wrestling, gi / no-gi grappling is climbing the charts. I'm seeing more and more tournaments with that type of competition. You'll just have to add submissions. But a thing to also think about, is if you participate in MMA, even as a amateur, that will take away your eligibility to participates in USA Boxing. And if you're wanting to do some amateur boxing, but participate in karate, kickboxing, grappling competition, you'll want to make sure it's sanctioned by some sanctioning body, so you don't lose your license or amateur status. But if in doubt, get of the boxing commissioner for your state, or call the head office in Colorado Springs. Website is at USA Boxing - Home . A lot of the competition is ok to do as long as your not being paid to do it. That would be under prize fighting. __________________ Author of "WarriorRage KickBoxing by Scott Bolinger" www.WarriorRage.com President of The WarriorRage KickBoxing Federation www.wrkf.us

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07-25-2008, 12:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
ltindiandaeng Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Northern Thailand Posts: 88 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes since you can already wrestle,it would be very good if you could box also.Then you would be ready for whatever the other kid was using.karate,kickboxing,tae kwon do would all teach you how to puch and kick.Meanwhile try to figure out how to avoud all these fights,if you can.

07-25-2008, 01:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bill_1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the advice. I'm thinking of joining this place.. Chicago Mixed Martial Arts Self Defense Jiu Jitsu

07-25-2008, 12:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
rvafighter Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 17 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm going to sound like a parent...I don't mean to, and you'll 'get it' one day....but the solution to older kids picking on you is not learning to be a better fighter. How old are the "older kids?" 15? 16? Its probably hard to see from your own point of view, but those kids picking on you are idiots, immature, and aren't worth the time and effort you are putting in worrying about it. But to answer your question, Muay Thai in its purest form has its limitations in a street fight...it will teach you to strike better but will not teach you to take on an opponent that is working off of a totally different set of rules (or no rules at all). But if beating people up is your reason for wanting to learn Muay Thai, I'd recommend that you hold off a couple of years, as Muay Thai is formed around the concept of RESPECT that takes a certain level of maturity to handle. Properly executed Muay Thai strikes can be physically devastating to an untrained opponent and regardless of who started the fight, you may get yourself into more trouble than you asked for if you do any major damage. I like that you are interested in Muay Thai, but want to make sure that you are doing it for the right reasons.

07-25-2008, 01:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bill_1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh yes, these kids are 15. 2 years older than me. I don't want to beat people up. I want to train in fighting. Fighting interests me. It releases anger and other emotions.

07-25-2008, 04:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bill_1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	This was going on during school also..whenever I would walk upstairs they would knock down my books and push me into lockers. 2v1

07-28-2008, 04:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bill_1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	That was last year, it is now summer. So they will be going to high school next year.

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