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Old 10-19-2009, 05:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys,

I'm new here and if his thread seems redundant, my sincere apologies. I've been training in Muay thai for 2 years now; however, the style I train under is more of a dutch-european style which involves much more boxing and footwork than traditional thaiboxing. Often in MT vs Boxing threads, the arguments usually made are that Low Kicks and clinch work should be used to counter boxers. However, the scenario I'm about to present has a sort of an MMA twist to it. Suppose if we were to replace boxing gloves with MMA gloves and made the bout between a thai boxer and a boxer, who do you think would have the advantage? The fight permits, punches, kicks, knees, elbows, a 10 sec clinch and no ground work. The fight is scheduled for 3, 3 min rounds.

In my opinion boxers would hold a definite advantage here. I think a boxers hand speed and the lack of restrictions of a 16 oz glove provides them the ability to be better headhunters. Not to mention that 4 oz mma gloves lead to knock outs faster due to the easier access of 4 oz gloves. I believe boxing gloves simply provide more defense; therefore, it takes a longer time to ko an opponent.

I have also noticed that many MMA and K-1 fighters are adding boxing to their regiment in order to become better fighters. I think one of the reasons Tyrone Spong is such a successful MT fighter is because he has better hands
than most Thaiboxers. In fact, he had been offered a contract in boxing after training with Floyd Mayweather Sr.

Anyways thoughts, opinions?

Again if this thread is repetitive or in the wrong section than I sincerely apologize as I am new here.
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I don't know, maybe you are right, guys like Anderson Silva seems to rely more on their boxing than muay thai.
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Mixing boxing and MT is nothing new. I would argue that most MT gyms in Western countries to this. We've all been bought up on boxing, it works and is effective when mixed with MT.

As for your "fantasy" match up with MMA gloves....anything is possible, but it will always depend on the fighters.
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How much actual boxing you integrate into muay thai or mma depends on how good you are at it and how well you can integrate it. Some muay thai fighters in the past have been hand dominant. Boxing really worked with wrestling in mma and many use that template for training. My dad was a boxing coach so i grew up with boxing and its an important part of my training in muay thai and in mma.
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You are lucky indeed. If I'll have kids, I' d like to train them in boxing or have somebody train them in that starting from a young age.
I think boxing is great, it gives you a lot of attributes, especially timing and working under pressure.
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