powerhouse round kick

drixx2 · 02-28-2002, 02:56 PM

can anyone give me a good description how to throw the 'monster-evil-hurting-tai-roundhouse-kick'? I was training with a guy who knew tai-kickboxing, and he showed me how to do it, i'm just checking to see if my 'form' is the same.

Kyoshu · 03-21-2002, 04:38 PM

Step in and side way like your stepping over a small bump and follow through with your leg slightly bent, making sure your knee goes past the target.

Kyoshu

mushinmaster · 03-28-2002, 05:06 PM

the kick has almost nothing to do with the leg, its all in the hips.
you gotta swing your hip first, then your leg follows with your whole body weight behind it, make contact with either your instep or the outside your shin. your mindset should be heavy. not how far can i move the bag, or i'm gonna kill it. you stay relaxed...the hips

PentjackSilat · 03-29-2002, 11:29 AM

I dont' know if I will be able to explain it very well in words. The Thai Kick is hard to get even when I teach it in person. But I will try.

First thing that happens is you lift your left hand about 8 inches up and diagonally right.

Now, swing your elbow down in a semi-circular motion. When done right this will create enough momentum to swing your right shoulder forward.

While your right shoulder is swinging forward stick your right arm out straight. It should be pointing at whatever you're going to destroy.

Practice this to get it right. Your right hand should swing out with the momentum created from swinging your left elbow down in a semi-circular motion.

Now, that is only half the movement. Once your right hand has swung out, your left elbow must complete the circle and your left hand must come to rest in front of your face.

At the same time your left elbow is completing the circle your right arm must swing back in a relaxed manner. As it swings back the right shoulder must come to the chin. It is like a see-saw. As the right hand goes back, the right shoulder goes up to the chin.

Practice this to get it right. This motion should create enough momentum to spin you counter-clockwise. This hand motion is where the power comes from.

Now, During the first half of the motion, when your right arm is shooting forward, is when you lift your leg to the target.

During the second half of the motion is when you pivot your foot ALL THE WAY AROUND. Your toes must point 180 degrees away from your target.

The goal is that if you miss, your kicking leg will keep traveling in a circle and land on the ground BEHIND you. If he steps back and you miss, and your leg doesn't do this..you're doing the kick wrong. There is no stopping this kick!

Now, you do not snap at the knee. You pick the leg up with a slight bend in the knee, and you keep it there. No snap. When your kick lands, it should not land on his side. It should land diagonally forward.

The hip needs to be leading. If there is a curve in the hip, the power will not transfer. It needs to be straight.

Do not aim at your target. Aim some where behind you. Whatever is in your way, is destroyed.

If you miss, when your leg touches the ground behind you, step with it and turn around with your left leg shielding.

A shield is when you lift your knee and touch it to your elbow. Your shin and forearm act as a wall. Flex your toes up when doing this, and put your weight forward.

I hope this helps.
"Sawadhi Krap"

omgitsroy326 · 06-03-2002, 12:15 PM

correct me if i'm wrong but isn't thai kick like a roundhouse kick be have a downward pull on it plus a follow through?

PentjackSilat · 06-03-2002, 01:10 PM

The Thai Kick has the same route as a roundhouse kick, but other than that it is not the same.

Bau · 06-04-2002, 02:14 PM

Yes there is a follow through.....as mushin said.... "its in the hips"

mushinmaster · 06-06-2002, 12:33 AM

The roundhouse kick, as I was taught, is almost nothing like the thai kick.

Roundhouse - top of the foot, the knee raises straight, then pivot, snap the leg out and back. tip tap stuff - mainly just kicking with the leg, that's why its sooooo weak.

Thai - instep/shin, arms go, hips go, leg follows, destroying anything and everything in its path, lol no real chambering of the knee, the leg just kinda follows the body movement. This kick is performed with the body, and that's why its so much more powerful.

omgitsroy326 · 06-06-2002, 01:08 AM

that's what i thought....

nasigoreng · 06-14-2002, 12:20 AM

I suggest:

don't stay 'squared up' with the opponent.

in a left lead: pretend you are standing on the bottom of a 'V'

-first, throw a jab as a distraction.

- left (forward) foot steps up [ just a few inches] to the left wing (stepping into your opponent)

kicking w/ right leg
- right hand drops (creates space to torque hips). Left hand on forehead

-leg is relaxed (like throwing a wet towel)

- push through with hips= when you make contact , like your leg is a baseball bat.

- rise up on your left toes when you start the kick.

- after contact - retract leg and right hand returns to guard.

The better your kick, the louder the sound when you hit the pads.

hope this helps

PentjackSilat · 06-15-2002, 10:30 AM

I don't mean to contradict, but a good Thai Kick will make very little sound if done well. A badly executed one will be very loud because you're missing the target and hitting it with your foot.

Bau · 06-15-2002, 04:10 PM

True.... the louder ones tend to be the quick "SLAP" ones with the foot... not as powerful

But the really powerful ones are more of a "THUD" done with power from the hips and contact with the shins and instep..

BOTH are pretty loud...just differ in tone...

I know...the sounds have nothing to do with fighting...but it's just what i have noticed....

plus...if youre holding the Thai pads... a "proper" well thrown Thai kick sends shock through your arms all the way over into your body!.. THATS a good kick....makes you think

"what if that hit me in the ribs or leg??"....OUCH,,,

All about the hips and follow through..

nasigoreng · 06-16-2002, 08:05 AM

You're right,

It's important to kick w/ shin.

The sound is more like a thud.

I think the sound is different when kicking a bag and kicking pads though.

I prefer working with a partner and kicking the pads because I like to move around and my partner will let me know if a kick was weak or strong.

02-28-2002, 02:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
drixx2 Novice Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 47	powerhouse round kick can anyone give me a good description how to throw the 'monster-evil-hurting-tai-roundhouse-kick'? I was training with a guy who knew tai-kickboxing, and he showed me how to do it, i'm just checking to see if my 'form' is the same. __________________ jason l

03-21-2002, 04:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kyoshu Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 42	Quoted from Lolo Heimuli Step in and side way like your stepping over a small bump and follow through with your leg slightly bent, making sure your knee goes past the target. Kyoshu

03-28-2002, 05:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
mushinmaster Novice Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SGF, NY Posts: 402	the kick has almost nothing to do with the leg, its all in the hips. you gotta swing your hip first, then your leg follows with your whole body weight behind it, make contact with either your instep or the outside your shin. your mindset should be heavy. not how far can i move the bag, or i'm gonna kill it. you stay relaxed...the hips __________________ Alex Bedard http://www.geocities.com/mushinmaster

03-29-2002, 11:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
PentjackSilat Novice Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miami Posts: 116	The Thai Kick I dont' know if I will be able to explain it very well in words. The Thai Kick is hard to get even when I teach it in person. But I will try. First thing that happens is you lift your left hand about 8 inches up and diagonally right. Now, swing your elbow down in a semi-circular motion. When done right this will create enough momentum to swing your right shoulder forward. While your right shoulder is swinging forward stick your right arm out straight. It should be pointing at whatever you're going to destroy. Practice this to get it right. Your right hand should swing out with the momentum created from swinging your left elbow down in a semi-circular motion. Now, that is only half the movement. Once your right hand has swung out, your left elbow must complete the circle and your left hand must come to rest in front of your face. At the same time your left elbow is completing the circle your right arm must swing back in a relaxed manner. As it swings back the right shoulder must come to the chin. It is like a see-saw. As the right hand goes back, the right shoulder goes up to the chin. Practice this to get it right. This motion should create enough momentum to spin you counter-clockwise. This hand motion is where the power comes from. Now, During the first half of the motion, when your right arm is shooting forward, is when you lift your leg to the target. During the second half of the motion is when you pivot your foot ALL THE WAY AROUND. Your toes must point 180 degrees away from your target. The goal is that if you miss, your kicking leg will keep traveling in a circle and land on the ground BEHIND you. If he steps back and you miss, and your leg doesn't do this..you're doing the kick wrong. There is no stopping this kick! Now, you do not snap at the knee. You pick the leg up with a slight bend in the knee, and you keep it there. No snap. When your kick lands, it should not land on his side. It should land diagonally forward. The hip needs to be leading. If there is a curve in the hip, the power will not transfer. It needs to be straight. Do not aim at your target. Aim some where behind you. Whatever is in your way, is destroyed. If you miss, when your leg touches the ground behind you, step with it and turn around with your left leg shielding. A shield is when you lift your knee and touch it to your elbow. Your shin and forearm act as a wall. Flex your toes up when doing this, and put your weight forward. I hope this helps. "Sawadhi Krap" __________________ We will not fade... We will not falter... And we will never EVER give up... -Team Cham Last edited by PentjackSilat; 03-29-2002 at 11:36 AM.

06-03-2002, 01:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
PentjackSilat Novice Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miami Posts: 116	The Thai Kick has the same route as a roundhouse kick, but other than that it is not the same. __________________ We will not fade... We will not falter... And we will never EVER give up... -Team Cham

06-03-2002, 12:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
omgitsroy326 Novice Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23	correct me if i'm wrong but isn't thai kick like a roundhouse kick be have a downward pull on it plus a follow through?

06-04-2002, 02:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bau Novice Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 90	Yes there is a follow through.....as mushin said.... "its in the hips" __________________ Everything happens for a reason....

06-06-2002, 12:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
mushinmaster Novice Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SGF, NY Posts: 402	The roundhouse kick, as I was taught, is almost nothing like the thai kick. Roundhouse - top of the foot, the knee raises straight, then pivot, snap the leg out and back. tip tap stuff - mainly just kicking with the leg, that's why its sooooo weak. Thai - instep/shin, arms go, hips go, leg follows, destroying anything and everything in its path, lol no real chambering of the knee, the leg just kinda follows the body movement. This kick is performed with the body, and that's why its so much more powerful. __________________ Alex Bedard http://www.geocities.com/mushinmaster

06-06-2002, 01:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
omgitsroy326 Novice Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23	that's what i thought....

06-14-2002, 12:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
nasigoreng Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 41	Footwork I suggest: don't stay 'squared up' with the opponent. in a left lead: pretend you are standing on the bottom of a 'V' -first, throw a jab as a distraction. - left (forward) foot steps up [ just a few inches] to the left wing (stepping into your opponent) kicking w/ right leg - right hand drops (creates space to torque hips). Left hand on forehead -leg is relaxed (like throwing a wet towel) - push through with hips= when you make contact , like your leg is a baseball bat. - rise up on your left toes when you start the kick. - after contact - retract leg and right hand returns to guard. The better your kick, the louder the sound when you hit the pads. hope this helps

06-15-2002, 10:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
PentjackSilat Novice Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miami Posts: 116	I don't mean to contradict, but a good Thai Kick will make very little sound if done well. A badly executed one will be very loud because you're missing the target and hitting it with your foot. __________________ We will not fade... We will not falter... And we will never EVER give up... -Team Cham

06-15-2002, 04:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
Bau Novice Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 90	yes yes True.... the louder ones tend to be the quick "SLAP" ones with the foot... not as powerful But the really powerful ones are more of a "THUD" done with power from the hips and contact with the shins and instep.. BOTH are pretty loud...just differ in tone... I know...the sounds have nothing to do with fighting...but it's just what i have noticed.... plus...if youre holding the Thai pads... a "proper" well thrown Thai kick sends shock through your arms all the way over into your body!.. THATS a good kick....makes you think "what if that hit me in the ribs or leg??"....OUCH,,, All about the hips and follow through.. __________________ Everything happens for a reason....

06-16-2002, 08:05 AM	#13 (permalink)
nasigoreng Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 41	sound You're right, It's important to kick w/ shin. The sound is more like a thud. I think the sound is different when kicking a bag and kicking pads though. I prefer working with a partner and kicking the pads because I like to move around and my partner will let me know if a kick was weak or strong.

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