can kickboxing compete?

ramus · 02-15-2003, 08:10 PM

Can kickboxing compete with other dojo martial arts or is it too basic?

Also is wrestling a good thing to add to kickboxing?

And is a Capoeira ginga usefull for kick boxing?

kungfupanda · 02-15-2003, 09:03 PM

ramus...i just wanted you to know...i cant stand you...you are like a thorn in my armpit every time i read one of your post. i have nightmares about you...about what you will post next. youre hurting me ramus...it hurts. i feel like going into a corner to shiver. because of you...i may have to attend therapy. and now you have to live knowing that. i hope you step in a pile of poop. and all your post are deleted.

ramus · 02-15-2003, 09:05 PM

looks likie i got a fan

ramus · 02-15-2003, 09:23 PM

I say yes, because kickboxing is pure self defense no 20 foot kicks here.

Scott Kano · 02-15-2003, 10:40 PM

bit of a stupid question really, think about it yourself.

ramus · 02-15-2003, 10:47 PM

yeah i guess so jus seeing what people thought

JKDude · 02-15-2003, 10:52 PM

If you want self defence with conventional arts (karate, tkd, jj, etc. etc. etc.) then you need to have been doing them for years and years.

If you want self defence now, do something like jkd, systema, krav maga...they basically get to the point more than other arts.

ramus · 02-15-2003, 10:58 PM

I read that kickboxing will teach you self defense in 2 WEEKS while other arts take 6 MONTHS

AND IS WRESTLING A GOOD SUPPLEMENT TO ADD TO KICKBOXING??????????????????????????

kh_s · 02-15-2003, 10:59 PM

ehh, how long would you say it would take for JKD ?

JKDude · 02-15-2003, 11:08 PM

depends who is teaching...thats the biggest issue with JKD
but it is definitely good for its simplicity, range of influences, and wide spanning concepts..
overall, JKD will teach you to handle yourself from afar,way close up, on the ground, and with any melee weapon...as long as theres and emphasis on filipino arts

Kingston · 02-15-2003, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ramus
I read that kickboxing will teach you self defense in 2 WEEKS while other arts take 6 MONTHS

AND IS WRESTLING A GOOD SUPPLEMENT TO ADD TO KICKBOXING??????????????????????????

how about you try wrestling and kickboxing then find out for yourself? or ask the kickboxing instrustor, or the wrestling coach.

is bjj a good suppliment to kung fu? is sambo a good sumpliment to indian leg wrestling?....

get some experience, take a MA, if you dont like it then choose another, keep looking until you find a place you like. who cares if kickboxing and wrestling work well together. IT DOESN"T MATTER!

JKDude · 02-15-2003, 11:13 PM

know this:
if you try to get good at fighting, you wont.

attend class, practice, listen, and stay easy about it...dont pay attention to how long it takes or you'll suck.

feel good about learning shit, but dont occupy your mind with a single thing...add it to the pile, and pull it out when you practice

make martialness a part of your life or you wont develop any good attributes (not skills, but other important stuff)

ramus · 02-15-2003, 11:16 PM

i already high school wrestle, and im debating if kickboxing could be supplemented by it, or ill just have to take an art that has grappling in it like HKD.

JKDude · 02-15-2003, 11:22 PM

if you take jkd, you'll own the ground...like never before.
i wouldnt bother with kickboxing because its nothing special from a technical and practical point of view..
since you have ground experience i'd recommend jkd...itll make you groundfight like a pekinese fighting bitch, and itll teach you some wonderful standing up stuff.

then take systema to make kingston happy [obligatory wisecrack]

Kingston · 02-15-2003, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JKDude
know this:
if you try to get good at fighting, you wont.

i have to dissagree, i cant seem to get good at anything without trying....

you have to try to do the drills in practice, and you do the drills to get good at fighting (among other reasons) so therefore just going to practice and participating is trying to be a good fighter.

...thinking about how long its taking to improve is what motivates you to try harder, seeing other people who have been around as long as you, and comparing yourself to them. See how you stand up to the rest.

With some arts that have a very slow improvment curve to them you can take it for 2 years and still really suck at it. Its all relative, in the big picture you suck, but compared to classmates of the same level, you could be quite good.

getting frustrated over those small setbacks is not helpfull though.

i agree that people should look at the larger picture as well when doing drills.

02-15-2003, 08:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144	can kickboxing compete? Can kickboxing compete with other dojo martial arts or is it too basic? Also is wrestling a good thing to add to kickboxing? And is a Capoeira ginga usefull for kick boxing? __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-15-2003, 09:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
kungfupanda Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 115	ARG!!! ramus...i just wanted you to know...i cant stand you...you are like a thorn in my armpit every time i read one of your post. i have nightmares about you...about what you will post next. youre hurting me ramus...it hurts. i feel like going into a corner to shiver. because of you...i may have to attend therapy. and now you have to live knowing that. i hope you step in a pile of poop. and all your post are deleted. __________________ Psalms 144:1 Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:

02-15-2003, 09:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144	looks likie i got a fan __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-15-2003, 09:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144	I say yes, because kickboxing is pure self defense no 20 foot kicks here. __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-15-2003, 10:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
Scott Kano Novice Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Christchurch NZ Posts: 160	bit of a stupid question really, think about it yourself. __________________ Minimum Effort, with Maximum Efficieny

02-15-2003, 10:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144	yeah i guess so jus seeing what people thought __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-15-2003, 10:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
JKDude Novice Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 32	If you want self defence with conventional arts (karate, tkd, jj, etc. etc. etc.) then you need to have been doing them for years and years. If you want self defence now, do something like jkd, systema, krav maga...they basically get to the point more than other arts.

02-15-2003, 10:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144	I read that kickboxing will teach you self defense in 2 WEEKS while other arts take 6 MONTHS AND IS WRESTLING A GOOD SUPPLEMENT TO ADD TO KICKBOXING?????????????????????????? __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-15-2003, 10:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
kh_s Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 408	ehh, how long would you say it would take for JKD ?

02-15-2003, 11:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
JKDude Novice Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 32	depends who is teaching...thats the biggest issue with JKD but it is definitely good for its simplicity, range of influences, and wide spanning concepts.. overall, JKD will teach you to handle yourself from afar,way close up, on the ground, and with any melee weapon...as long as theres and emphasis on filipino arts

02-15-2003, 11:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
JKDude Novice Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 32	know this: if you try to get good at fighting, you wont. attend class, practice, listen, and stay easy about it...dont pay attention to how long it takes or you'll suck. feel good about learning shit, but dont occupy your mind with a single thing...add it to the pile, and pull it out when you practice make martialness a part of your life or you wont develop any good attributes (not skills, but other important stuff)

02-15-2003, 11:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
ramus Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 144	i already high school wrestle, and im debating if kickboxing could be supplemented by it, or ill just have to take an art that has grappling in it like HKD. __________________ DOWN WITH GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-15-2003, 11:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
JKDude Novice Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 32	if you take jkd, you'll own the ground...like never before. i wouldnt bother with kickboxing because its nothing special from a technical and practical point of view.. since you have ground experience i'd recommend jkd...itll make you groundfight like a pekinese fighting bitch, and itll teach you some wonderful standing up stuff. then take systema to make kingston happy [obligatory wisecrack]

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