MT vs. SANSHOU - Page 2

thai_pete · 09-25-2003, 03:09 AM

this is an interesting poll, a question i would like to shed some light on.

up till about 2 months ago i trained in muay thai which i thought was very effective for both conditioning , dicipline etc ,however just this week i have joined another school who specialise in san shou kickboxing after my muay thai school closed.

last week i got into a bit of an altercation and after taking 3 punches i ended up grappling....but the startling thing was i didnt kno how to take the guy to the ground..so i suppose my swithch to san shou comes at an appropriate time....having said that i love muay thai and if my gym hadnt have closed i would have continued for as long as i could!

id like to find out more about san shou

T3rr0r_ · 09-27-2003, 07:12 AM

muay tai is more effective i think its not full of crap and fancy movement it must be direct and not stupid acts

ok ik weet niet zoveel van japanse vechtkunsten maar degene die ik zie zijn alleen maar fancy shit waar nergens wat van ergens op slaat

RobertG · 09-28-2003, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by T3rr0r_
muah tai is more effective i think its not full of crap and fancy movement it must be direct and not stupic acts

For our English challenged Dutch friend....

A) Wat is "muah tai"? "muah" is wat de meisjes online typen wanneer zij leuk proberen te zijn en cyber kussen. U weet het, in plaats van * kussen * typen zij "muah". "Tai" in Japanner, middelenlichaam niet het? Zo kust u het lichaam? Dat zou vrij efficiënt kunnen zijn ik veronderstelt.

B) Wat is een "stupic handeling"? Is dat wanneer u zonder werktijd het controleren typt?

C) Hoe precies is Sanshou volledig van crap en buitensporige bewegingen en "stupic handelingen"? Sanshou elimineerde veel van de "bloemrijke" bewegingen van andere Chinese arts.. Zijn vrij veel, aangezien ik, het fundamentele kickboxing met takedowns begrijp. Dat is vrij ongecompliceerd. Takedowns zijn werkelijk het enige belangrijkste verschil met Muay Thai (dat en het conditioneren).

arsen · 10-02-2003, 02:35 PM

I haven't trained in Muay Thai, I've done a little bit a San Shou, so I'm not versed enough to say which is better, but in terms of advantages in styles, i think that is completely irrelevant, i believe the advantage lies in the fighter who is stronger, faster, smarter, and more experienced. But thats just my opinion

Fire Dragon · 10-03-2003, 08:20 AM

Hai! You're wrong!
Sanda/Shansou is a modification from "LEI TAI = FREE FIGHT (WITHOUT RULE)"! If you looked at Chinese History, you will see that all kungfu master fight (with weapon or hand empty) for live and/or got new studies/challenges. They fought each other without any protection (body protector, gloves,etc). Shansou/sanda is a new model of fighting which is prepared to protect the fighter! In 70-80, many people or kungfu practioner fought across China Mainland, like as Taiwan, Filipina, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Canada, US,etc. Most of them beated local martial art! In our country, Muay Thay Fighter never win the fight if he met Sanda/Kungfu or Pencak Silat fighter (tournament or non tournament)! Why? because, rank of skill and his martial art is below then them! So? SHANSOU/SANDA IS NOT MUAY THAY! Do you know that Kungfu Fighter through Shansou/Sanda won several times at "KUNGFU VS MUAY THAY" Event both in China and/or Thailand? You should learn more deeply before you give your recommendation! Thanks.

Quote:

Originally posted by wildchild
For years Muay Thai was consistantly beating Sanshou/Sanda, until Sanshou has become more Muay Thai inclined, i believe the Chinese employed Thai fighters to teach Muay Thai to Sanshou artists. Now days things are more even, other than the fact that when the two styles fight the Chinese win in China and the Thais win in Thailand, its all biased judging and biased rules. I will say however that Sanshou only seem to win by points wheras the Thais knock the their opponants out. Another thing to consider is that the Thais who fight in these mixed matches arent the best Muay Thai fighters, but their opponants from Sanshou have been the top ranked fighters in their disapline.

**Thai Bri** · 10-04-2003, 10:54 AM

If you start any more replies with "Hai! You're Wrong" I will make it my lifes ambition to hunt you down and pour a bucket of baby sick over your head.

Thanks for listening!

jubaji · 10-04-2003, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fire Dragon
Hai! You're wrong!

"'Yes', you're wrong"?

**Thai Bri** · 10-04-2003, 12:37 PM

Theres enough in the bucket for you too, you know.

jubaji · 10-04-2003, 12:58 PM

and just how did you collect so much?

**Thai Bri** · 10-05-2003, 03:30 AM

Easy.

First you need a baby.
Then a bucket.
Then a picture of you.

Put them all togather and hey presto!

retired · 10-05-2003, 04:48 AM

Ha Ha the the Sarkmeister is back

**Thai Bri** · 10-05-2003, 08:31 AM

I've never been away.

Unlike your chest.

retired · 10-05-2003, 09:42 AM

No you been hiding in the other forums because to many kids were picking on you here LOL

**Thai Bri** · 10-05-2003, 10:00 AM

They're so cruel, aren't they!

jubaji · 10-05-2003, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Thai Bri
Easy.

First you need a baby.
Then a bucket.
Then a picture of you.

Put them all togather and hey presto!

lol

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MT	65	56.52%
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09-25-2003, 03:09 AM	#16 (permalink)
thai_pete Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14	this is an interesting poll, a question i would like to shed some light on. up till about 2 months ago i trained in muay thai which i thought was very effective for both conditioning , dicipline etc ,however just this week i have joined another school who specialise in san shou kickboxing after my muay thai school closed. last week i got into a bit of an altercation and after taking 3 punches i ended up grappling....but the startling thing was i didnt kno how to take the guy to the ground..so i suppose my swithch to san shou comes at an appropriate time....having said that i love muay thai and if my gym hadnt have closed i would have continued for as long as i could! id like to find out more about san shou __________________ PAin is only Temporay, pride is forever

09-27-2003, 07:12 AM	#17 (permalink)
T3rr0r_ Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: netherlands Posts: 52	muay tai is more effective i think its not full of crap and fancy movement it must be direct and not stupid acts ok ik weet niet zoveel van japanse vechtkunsten maar degene die ik zie zijn alleen maar fancy shit waar nergens wat van ergens op slaat __________________ cyclone@terror.nl www.t3rr0r.web1000.com/index.php Last edited by T3rr0r_; 09-28-2003 at 11:41 AM.

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jubaji Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 8,110	and just how did you collect so much? __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

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10-02-2003, 02:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
arsen Novice Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 63	I haven't trained in Muay Thai, I've done a little bit a San Shou, so I'm not versed enough to say which is better, but in terms of advantages in styles, i think that is completely irrelevant, i believe the advantage lies in the fighter who is stronger, faster, smarter, and more experienced. But thats just my opinion

10-04-2003, 10:54 AM	#21 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,415	If you start any more replies with "Hai! You're Wrong" I will make it my lifes ambition to hunt you down and pour a bucket of baby sick over your head. Thanks for listening!

10-04-2003, 12:37 PM	#23 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,415	Theres enough in the bucket for you too, you know.

10-05-2003, 03:30 AM	#25 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,415	Easy. First you need a baby. Then a bucket. Then a picture of you. Put them all togather and hey presto!

10-05-2003, 04:48 AM	#26 (permalink)
retired Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: wales-great britain Posts: 886	Ha Ha the the Sarkmeister is back

10-05-2003, 08:31 AM	#27 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,415	I've never been away. Unlike your chest.

10-05-2003, 09:42 AM	#28 (permalink)
retired Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: wales-great britain Posts: 886	No you been hiding in the other forums because to many kids were picking on you here LOL

10-05-2003, 10:00 AM	#29 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,415	They're so cruel, aren't they!

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