where are all the good kickboxers/MTers?

jules · 09-12-2003, 08:32 AM

I mean the good ones with skill(talking heavyweights here)? If you look at K-1 these days other than Hoost and Aerts, who is "skilled"? Most are sluggers these days, I had high hopes for Sefo untill he turned into some kind of wannabe-rocky(perhaps is back is the reason he doesn't kick anymore?). Same for Hunt, he could have been so good. He had the power, chin, and (if you see his early fights) the agility. Now what is he? A fat lard who just wants to slug it out with you. Crocop is the only one i can think of right now that is "skilled". One who knows how to use both is hands and feet.

jules · 09-12-2003, 08:33 AM

put Alexey Ignashov in there also.

JKDfreak · 09-12-2003, 09:50 AM

Don't forget Jerome Le Banner!!!!

......and Bob Sapp......wait a second......no he's a monster who wants to show off and don't even know how to throw a hook!!!!!

jules · 09-12-2003, 09:55 AM

LeBanner? Get out of here. I can't remeber the last time he kicked more than 5 times in a match. (including low kicks). He thinks he is tyson and tries to muscle everyone and tries to KO everyone with is fists. But when up against a person who can take a punch like Sefo and Hunt... shiet. remeber what Sefo and Hunt did to him?

JP Prideaux · 09-12-2003, 12:08 PM

Jerrel Venetiaan (when he isnt doping)
Remy Bonjaski
Alexei Ignashov
Aziz Kattou
Michael MacDonald

As for LeBanner, Bernardo and Sefo et al. They are good kickboxers. Even if they dont throw x ammount of kicks per round they get the job done with what they are comfortable with. They CAN kick. Even slugger Bernardo. . . ive trained at the same gym as him and his high kicks are VERY quick. Why he chooses not to use them as much... i dont know.

Apex · 09-12-2003, 01:12 PM

Remy is awesome and don't forget about Carter. Both good MT fighters in K-1. I think Carter will surprise many people in Japan.

JKDfreak · 09-13-2003, 11:10 AM

You know I'm a fan of Ignashov and Ray Sefo as well as Le Banner cuz i'm french.But do you remember the day where he has beaten up Hunt in Bercy???? Or remeber the fight against Gary Goodridge,in 42 sec the Pride fighter was down.
Ok I know he lost against Mr Perfect/Hoost but his arm was broken and Hoost won the championship though he had lost way before and went to the finla just because one of the guys couldn't fight.

09-12-2003, 08:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
jules Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 474	where are all the good kickboxers/MTers? I mean the good ones with skill(talking heavyweights here)? If you look at K-1 these days other than Hoost and Aerts, who is "skilled"? Most are sluggers these days, I had high hopes for Sefo untill he turned into some kind of wannabe-rocky(perhaps is back is the reason he doesn't kick anymore?). Same for Hunt, he could have been so good. He had the power, chin, and (if you see his early fights) the agility. Now what is he? A fat lard who just wants to slug it out with you. Crocop is the only one i can think of right now that is "skilled". One who knows how to use both is hands and feet.

09-12-2003, 09:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
JKDfreak Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 52	Don't forget Jerome Le Banner!!!! ......and Bob Sapp......wait a second......no he's a monster who wants to show off and don't even know how to throw a hook!!!!! __________________ Progressive Combat System JF/JKD,Muay Thai,Jiu-Jitsu,Wrestling,Savate,Kali Edd Free your mind,be shapeless,formless,like water. Bruce Lee

09-12-2003, 12:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
JP Prideaux Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The pub Posts: 157	Jerrel Venetiaan (when he isnt doping) Remy Bonjaski Alexei Ignashov Aziz Kattou Michael MacDonald As for LeBanner, Bernardo and Sefo et al. They are good kickboxers. Even if they dont throw x ammount of kicks per round they get the job done with what they are comfortable with. They CAN kick. Even slugger Bernardo. . . ive trained at the same gym as him and his high kicks are VERY quick. Why he chooses not to use them as much... i dont know. __________________ 5th Dan in Origami

09-13-2003, 11:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
JKDfreak Novice Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 52	You know I'm a fan of Ignashov and Ray Sefo as well as Le Banner cuz i'm french.But do you remember the day where he has beaten up Hunt in Bercy???? Or remeber the fight against Gary Goodridge,in 42 sec the Pride fighter was down. Ok I know he lost against Mr Perfect/Hoost but his arm was broken and Hoost won the championship though he had lost way before and went to the finla just because one of the guys couldn't fight. __________________ Progressive Combat System JF/JKD,Muay Thai,Jiu-Jitsu,Wrestling,Savate,Kali Edd Free your mind,be shapeless,formless,like water. Bruce Lee

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09-12-2003, 08:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
jules Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 474	put Alexey Ignashov in there also.

09-12-2003, 09:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
jules Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 474	LeBanner? Get out of here. I can't remeber the last time he kicked more than 5 times in a match. (including low kicks). He thinks he is tyson and tries to muscle everyone and tries to KO everyone with is fists. But when up against a person who can take a punch like Sefo and Hunt... shiet. remeber what Sefo and Hunt did to him?

09-12-2003, 01:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
Apex Novice Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SW Posts: 22	Remy is awesome and don't forget about Carter. Both good MT fighters in K-1. I think Carter will surprise many people in Japan.

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