The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Anti · 02-17-2006, 12:12 PM

In my oppinion, intimidation is a big help. The hitting in the nose is a good one(blood is naturally a great scare factor), but also throwing one of them is very intimidating. If you can pull it off, I recommend it for intimidation.
Other than that, dont get caught in a corner, and disarm a weapon if possible(or simple pick something up). Stopping yurself from getting cornered is again highly important, and if you can injure anyone, escape will be much more possible. Hope im not repeating anything already said.
~Anti

BoarSpear · 02-18-2006, 02:53 PM

Hey Mike, you make fighting multiples sound possible, and fun

BoarSpear · 02-18-2006, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Brewer

People have been doing it for centuries. Even before guns and stuff. I think the myth that it's an impossibility to win against multiple attackers is largely a result of marketing by grapplers for their art. Everyone knows that the main weakness of grappling is that it seriously limits if not eliminates one's ability to fight more than one person. Might as well make it sound like fighting multiple attackers is just outright impossible and put the grappling arts back on top, right?

One common thread you always see in arts that developed in regions and among populations where mass attack was the norm? Weapons. In Brazil, the norm was for people to make a circle and let two guys fight it out like we used to on the playground at school. In the Philippines, however, fighting meant trying to repel the Spaniards, Portuguese, Dutch, Japanese, or Americans. Filipinos were always outnumbered and outgunned, so they developed a lot more sophisticated weapons systems than empty-hand systems. But people have been fighting multiple attackers most likely since the dawn of civilization. Tribes of pre-human monkeys battling it out in roving bands for food and territory - shit like that.

I don't know why people think it's so impossible. It's a completely natural situation to encounter in a social group, human or not.

I think people like to claim its impossible because it lets them sleep at night...they havent done the work to learn to fight multiples so its easier to claim no one else can either...and then if you happened to "improve" an art to the point it is no longer capable of fighting while standing up

then you have to swear its impossible.

fighting shouldnt be fun, but it is...or we wouldnt all be doing it would we???
And getting it right and winning is the best part, unless you fight multiples and win, nothing beats that rush..."DAaaammmnnn i almost got my ass kicked, but i won!!"

Shard · 02-22-2006, 11:39 PM

IF possible, Do not bring a weapon into situation unless the situation is that DIRE.
If you pick up a knife, those 6 people chasing after you will each proceed to arm themselves with weapons. Now its 1 knife vs. 2 bottle, a wooden pole, 2 knives and a fire axe. You're in deeper shit than you were a moment ago.

Unless they are already armed, then you sure as hell better arm yourself.

Tant01 · 02-23-2006, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shard

IF possible, Do not bring a weapon into situation unless the situation is that DIRE.
If you pick up a knife, those 6 people chasing after you will each proceed to arm themselves with weapons. Now its 1 knife vs. 2 bottle, a wooden pole, 2 knives and a fire axe. You're in deeper shit than you were a moment ago.

Unless they are already armed, then you sure as hell better arm yourself.

They will be thinking shield and distance to keep away from you. They might be thinking THAT needs stitches!

They might be thinking who is going to carry out Ralph because he's down and bleeding everywhere... They might be thinking about shooting you dead but they will be running away.

Attitude of a victim makes you a victim from the start.

But don't take my word for nuthin...

budo · 02-23-2006, 02:45 PM

just a thought...seeing as multiple attackers haven't usually praticed fighting as a team, wouldn't them arming themselves in response to you being armed be more of a hinderance to them, if someones trying to hit you with a fire axe while his mate is trying to stab you, isn't there a good chance he will hit his mate reducing the ammount of attackers? ie, someone hurt needs someone to look after him, the other guy loses focus casue he's just belted his best buddy with a fire axe??

Tant01 · 02-24-2006, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Brewer

Personal experience:
Weapons are always better when it comes to saving your life than going empty hand - especially when there are multiple attackers involved. ......

.... First Rule of Unarmed Combat - Get Armed!!

Great story... (edited) I could not agree more!

My signature line reflects my opinion of "martial" arts...well enough.

kwai chang pain · 03-03-2006, 08:54 PM

I've done some 2 on 1 sparring and have a funny story about it.

My teacher had a gas-powered AC in his school that didn't work too well and it was the middle of summer. Another student and myself were the 2 and the teacher was the 1. He was wearing wristwrap leather gloves that started
leaking black dye.

When our fight was done my white gi had black on the shoulder, black on the stomach, black on the chest, lots of black spots. The other guy that attacked the teacher w/ me didn't have but one small spot on him.

Guess I should work on my defense.

GQchris · 04-20-2006, 02:37 PM

This is when you bust out your balisong and do some letter opening...

yeah yeah, a concealed knife is illegal but thugs don't give a shit about your life either, it's just like the U.S. attitude against Al Qaeda, they don't give a phuck about geneva convention...

GQchris · 04-20-2006, 02:37 PM

This is when you bust out your balisong and do some letter opening...

yeah yeah, a concealed knife is illegal but thugs don't give a shit about your life either, it's just like the U.S. attitude against Al Qaeda, they don't give a phuck about geneva convention...

J-Luck · 04-20-2006, 02:58 PM

I'm gonng have to disagree slightly Mike. Judo and wreslting are good to know when getting jumped. I agreed with most of what Boar and you said, but a good throw can be quick, powerful, and end the fight quicker than a good strike. In fact, it could take someone copletly outa commision. As far as being jumped and how we got there... for me, it was either being robbed, fighting someone and his boys jumped in, or my mouth lol. In which case, numbers 2 and 3 might as well be the same. You guys pretty much covered everything. I would just put emphasis on not going to the ground, and keeping them in front of you. I always keep brass knuckles on me so I got that one hit knockout ratio lol. (beauty of brass knucks is they come across the bottom of your hand when you make a fist to, so you can swing your hand like a hammer if you want and still to alot of damage.

GQchris · 04-20-2006, 03:09 PM

You're a dirty little thug J

I gotta add some brass knuckles to my stash of illegal contraband..

J-Luck · 04-20-2006, 03:15 PM

Lol... HEY, I'm a CHRISTIAN REMEMBER! lol. I no longer go looking for fights... but I'll be damned if I won't finish one when it finds me.

J-Luck · 04-20-2006, 03:16 PM

You're a Marine, so it's much easier for you to get a concealed weapons license right? If so, a 9mm might work much better than brass knuckles for you... lol

GQchris · 04-20-2006, 03:31 PM

I'm no longer on active duty... but as we used to say in the Corps, "if you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin" that goes for fighting too...

03-03-2006, 08:54 PM	#23 (permalink)
kwai chang pain Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 96 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've done some 2 on 1 sparring and have a funny story about it. My teacher had a gas-powered AC in his school that didn't work too well and it was the middle of summer. Another student and myself were the 2 and the teacher was the 1. He was wearing wristwrap leather gloves that started leaking black dye. When our fight was done my white gi had black on the shoulder, black on the stomach, black on the chest, lots of black spots. The other guy that attacked the teacher w/ me didn't have but one small spot on him. Guess I should work on my defense. __________________ May your knuckles always drip with the blood of your enemies.

04-20-2006, 02:37 PM	#24 (permalink)
GQchris Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alameda County, California Posts: 819 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok This is when you bust out your balisong and do some letter opening... yeah yeah, a concealed knife is illegal but thugs don't give a shit about your life either, it's just like the U.S. attitude against Al Qaeda, they don't give a phuck about geneva convention... __________________ Owner of a lonely heart.. much better than a owner of a broken heart...

04-20-2006, 02:37 PM	#25 (permalink)
GQchris Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alameda County, California Posts: 819 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok This is when you bust out your balisong and do some letter opening... yeah yeah, a concealed knife is illegal but thugs don't give a shit about your life either, it's just like the U.S. attitude against Al Qaeda, they don't give a phuck about geneva convention... __________________ Owner of a lonely heart.. much better than a owner of a broken heart...

04-20-2006, 02:58 PM	#26 (permalink)
J-Luck Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,349 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm gonng have to disagree slightly Mike. Judo and wreslting are good to know when getting jumped. I agreed with most of what Boar and you said, but a good throw can be quick, powerful, and end the fight quicker than a good strike. In fact, it could take someone copletly outa commision. As far as being jumped and how we got there... for me, it was either being robbed, fighting someone and his boys jumped in, or my mouth lol. In which case, numbers 2 and 3 might as well be the same. You guys pretty much covered everything. I would just put emphasis on not going to the ground, and keeping them in front of you. I always keep brass knuckles on me so I got that one hit knockout ratio lol. (beauty of brass knucks is they come across the bottom of your hand when you make a fist to, so you can swing your hand like a hammer if you want and still to alot of damage. __________________ I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. - Phillipians 4:13

04-20-2006, 03:09 PM	#27 (permalink)
GQchris Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alameda County, California Posts: 819 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	nice J-luck You're a dirty little thug J I gotta add some brass knuckles to my stash of illegal contraband.. __________________ Owner of a lonely heart.. much better than a owner of a broken heart...

02-17-2006, 12:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
Anti Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Georgia Posts: 75 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	In my oppinion, intimidation is a big help. The hitting in the nose is a good one(blood is naturally a great scare factor), but also throwing one of them is very intimidating. If you can pull it off, I recommend it for intimidation. Other than that, dont get caught in a corner, and disarm a weapon if possible(or simple pick something up). Stopping yurself from getting cornered is again highly important, and if you can injure anyone, escape will be much more possible. Hope im not repeating anything already said. ~Anti

02-18-2006, 02:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
BoarSpear Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,715 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey Mike, you make fighting multiples sound possible, and fun

02-22-2006, 11:39 PM	#19 (permalink)
Shard Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 180 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	IF possible, Do not bring a weapon into situation unless the situation is that DIRE. If you pick up a knife, those 6 people chasing after you will each proceed to arm themselves with weapons. Now its 1 knife vs. 2 bottle, a wooden pole, 2 knives and a fire axe. You're in deeper shit than you were a moment ago. Unless they are already armed, then you sure as hell better arm yourself.

02-23-2006, 02:45 PM	#21 (permalink)
budo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 13 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	just a thought...seeing as multiple attackers haven't usually praticed fighting as a team, wouldn't them arming themselves in response to you being armed be more of a hinderance to them, if someones trying to hit you with a fire axe while his mate is trying to stab you, isn't there a good chance he will hit his mate reducing the ammount of attackers? ie, someone hurt needs someone to look after him, the other guy loses focus casue he's just belted his best buddy with a fire axe??

04-20-2006, 03:15 PM	#28 (permalink)
J-Luck Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,349 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lol... HEY, I'm a CHRISTIAN REMEMBER! lol. I no longer go looking for fights... but I'll be damned if I won't finish one when it finds me. __________________ I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. - Phillipians 4:13

04-20-2006, 03:16 PM	#29 (permalink)
J-Luck Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,349 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	You're a Marine, so it's much easier for you to get a concealed weapons license right? If so, a 9mm might work much better than brass knuckles for you... lol __________________ I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. - Phillipians 4:13

04-20-2006, 03:31 PM	#30 (permalink)
GQchris Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alameda County, California Posts: 819 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm no longer on active duty... but as we used to say in the Corps, "if you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin" that goes for fighting too... __________________ Owner of a lonely heart.. much better than a owner of a broken heart...

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