The Ultimate in Martial Arts

**traveller** · 08-16-2006, 03:52 PM

Similar subject in MMA
"What are the essential grappling elements mixed martial artist should learn?"
Could probably use some of the experts here for that one.

Uke · 01-22-2007, 12:23 PM

Great topic.

kanik · 01-22-2007, 04:12 PM

OMG! this thread has gone on for song long, I just want to thank all of you people for all the information i have received due to your knowledge and/or experiance on the topic, anyway yeh if ya got anything else to say keep this thread rolling

so yeh thanks all.

jubaji · 04-26-2008, 03:30 PM

............................................bump

**TTEscrima** · 04-26-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Uke

If you're waiting for jubaji to explain ANYTHING don't hold your breath, KOTF. He never writes anything insightful. His salty comments and defense of grappling have the Matt Furey stench all over it. Mr. Arieson summed him up on another topic perfectly. And notice that he didn't once address anything in my post with facts? Kanik asked for advice and all he could do was post emoticons. This guy's apparently brimming with knowledge and experience.

But to answer your question KOTF, grappling defense, especially in BJJ and wrestling, is to hold on to your opponent until he gets tired of taking shots at you. Now if we go by what we've seen by the top grappling practitioners(excluding jubaji of course), once they get punched in the face(and they usually do) they shoot in so that you can't get velocity on your strikes. Then they either go for a double leg takedown or a sacrifice sweep which almost always puts them in the guard.

Once there, against a knife thrust, they would demonstrate the spiritual aspect of grappling and begin praying because they wouldn't have a snowball's shot in hell of doing anything except for bleeding on the guy with the knife. But that would make for an interesting contest:

Who passes out first? A guy in a triangle choke or the guy executing the triangle choke after getting stabbed in the ribs about 10 times?

Ponder that Pinky

Matt Furey.

**kingoftheforest** · 04-26-2008, 04:44 PM

I miss Uke. He was the best Uke ever.

legshot420 · 04-27-2008, 01:10 AM

Takedown defense (and not just for the single or double leg) in competition, dirty tricks or weapons in the street. Smearing dirt on his eyes, fish hooks, small joint manipulation, pinching, biting, etc.

bodhisattva · 05-01-2008, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kanik

hi all sorry if a thread like this has allready been started before but anywho. How the hell can i beat grapplers? i hate fighting them, i can beat them but with a hell of a lot more dificulty then punchers/kickers so any advice would be awsome, also for my friend advice for grapplers vs. punchers would be nice, heck some simple holds/locks, etc. would also be good, i guess the world on a golden platter would also serve to my liking.... peace out

Kanik

Learn to grapple.

It will help you a lot.

bodhisattva · 05-01-2008, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by traveller

That probably sounded like the rantings of a crazy man, and wasn't written in the most cohesive fashion.
Sorry, I got a bit distracted

Crazy man.

treelizard · 05-01-2008, 10:20 PM

Positioning is the most important thing. Work on that first.

jubaji · 01-08-2009, 07:59 PM

I'd be interested in hearing Uke's personal experiences against competent grapplers.

Uke · 01-08-2009, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jubaji

I'd be interested in hearing Uke's personal experiences against competent grapplers.

You'd be interested in hearing anything as you definitely have nothing to say. 10,000 opportunities to be a part of discussions and you blew all of them. There is no redemption for you.

jubaji · 01-08-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Uke

You'd be interested in hearing anything .

Ok, go ahead.

martial09k · 02-02-2009, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kanik

hi all sorry if a thread like this has allready been started before but anywho. How the hell can i beat grapplers? i hate fighting them, i can beat them but with a hell of a lot more dificulty then punchers/kickers so any advice would be awsome, also for my friend advice for grapplers vs. punchers would be nice, heck some simple holds/locks, etc. would also be good, i guess the world on a golden platter would also serve to my liking.... peace out

Kanik

here's a nice thread i've read about grappling,anit-grappling thought this might help you..Anti grappling

KirkhamsEbooks. · 02-03-2009, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kanik

hi all sorry if a thread like this has allready been started before but anywho. How the hell can i beat grapplers? i hate fighting them, i can beat them but with a hell of a lot more dificulty then punchers/kickers so any advice would be awsome, also for my friend advice for grapplers vs. punchers would be nice, heck some simple holds/locks, etc. would also be good, i guess the world on a golden platter would also serve to my liking.... peace out

Kanik

Really your best bet is to train against grapplers to pick up their primary techniques and get used to grapplers throwing them at you

Rick

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