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    Well now that the US supreme court has ruled in favor of the individual right to keep and bear arms for the purpose of self-defense DC is at it again.

    Action Alert: Washington DC Already Planning To Restrict Law-Abiding Citizens 2nd Amendment Rights-

    The following is a memo sent to Washington, DC residents by Cathy Lanier, Washington, DC Chief of Police:
    From: Lanier, Cathy (MPD)
    Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:35 PM
    Subject: Supreme Court Update

    Residents,

    Unfortunately, the Supreme Court today struck down part of the District of Columbia's handgun ban. I wanted to drop you a note to let you know the immediate impact of this decision.
    The Supreme Court's ruling is limited and leaves intact various other laws that apply to private residents who would purchase handguns or other firearms for home possession. It is important that everyone know that:

    a.. First, all firearms must be registered with the Metropolitan Police Department's Firearms Registration Section before they may be lawfully possessed.

    b.. Second, automatic and semiautomatic handguns generally remain illegal and may not be registered.

    c.. Third, the Supreme Court's ruling is limited to handguns in the home and does not entitle anyone to carry firearms outside his or her own home.

    WTF? I am quite sure that Americans have chosen semi-autos for self-defense over revolvers. If semi-autos are still banned then WTF was the whole supreme court ruling needed for?

    From the Heller decision--Quote:

    The District’s total ban on handgun possession in the home amounts to a prohibition on an entire class of “arms” that Americans overwhelmingly choose for the lawful purpose of self-defense.

    Overwhelmingly Americans choose semi-auto handguns as the weapon of choice for self-defense. Maybe Lanier should be arrested for breakking the law…violating the constitutional rights of the citizens of DC.

    Liberal logic

    Defined by things that don’t make any sense, for instance, a mall that posts a sign stating that guns are banned on the premises creates a false sense of security because what it really does is provide a would-be mass murderer like Cho Seung-Hui or Sulejman Talović looking for a tasty human treat a whole lot of unarmed bipedal cheeseburgers to choose from.

    Everyone is familiar with the Salt Lake City mall shooting right? But did you know there were at least TWO CCW (concealed carry weapon) holders working at the mall at the time of the shooting? Unfortunately they both chose to follow company policy and did not carry their concealed firearms on the job. Both had clear shots at
    Sulejman Talović had their handguns with them. Sulejman shot and killed five innocent and unarmed bystanders and wounded four others before being shot dead by police. This policy as well as other anti gun laws costs lives.
    The law of tyranny:

    1. Any power that can be abused will be abused
    2. Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it.
    3. If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail.


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    Maybe it's time for a new democratic republic? Revolution anyone?

    What can you do?

    "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur."


    James Paterson

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    Mike is right and it is something the liberal will ignore and deny and forever debate with the same hysteronics and nonsensical arguments as they always have.

    But the fact of the matter is Liberals hate guns because owning and carrying a firearm is the ultimate expression of personal responsibility, freedom, and independence. It says I can take care of myself and my own, I don’t need the nanny state, which is the ultimate slap in the face to the liberal’s world view.
    The law of tyranny:

    1. Any power that can be abused will be abused
    2. Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it.
    3. If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail.


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    D.C. Refining of Gun Laws--Offensively Stupid

    Friday, July 18, 2008

    Only a few weeks after the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in the Heller case, which struck down D.C.'s ban on handguns and allowed having a firearm in operable condition at home, D.C. has passed "emergency" law and new police regulations intended to retain as much of the ban and storage requirement as possible. The law was crafted in consultation with the Brady Campaign, according to the Washington Post.

    There are many objectionable features to the new D.C. law and regulations, but two stand out as particularly egregious. Though the Supreme Court ruled that D.C. could not ban handguns, the new rules would still ban all or most semi-automatic pistols. And in spite of the fact that the court ruled that D.C. cannot ban the use of guns for protection in the home, the District still prohibits having a gun loaded and ready unless an attack within your home is imminent or underway.

    Without Congress' intervention, D.C. can violate the intent of the Heller decision indefinitely. That is because under "Home Rule," D.C.'s emergency bills are not subject to review by Congress, and D.C. can reinstitute "emergency" laws every 90 days. The city's officials are already thumbing their noses at the Supreme Court.

    "They're doing everything that they can to not comply with the Supreme Court ruling," said NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris Cox, who characterized the new law as "a joke." "Unless the criminal calls you beforehand and lets you know he's coming over ... you're going to be left defenseless."

    In a true case of irony, and a fine example of the absurdity of the District's "compliance" with the Supreme Court's decision, Dick Heller, the man who brought the lawsuit against the District, and on whose case the Court ruled, was among the first in line this week to apply for a handgun permit. But when he tried to register his semi-automatic pistol, he was rejected! Heller's gun has a seven round magazine. D.C.'s law defines any semi-automatic as a "machine gun" if it is "capable of" firing more than 12 shots without reloading. D.C. police interpret this as banning any "bottom-loading" semi-automatic handgun, regardless of its actual capacity. That's outrageous.

    As things currently stand, a handful of arrogant politicians in a city that accounts for less than two-tenths of one percent of the population of the country, and less than two one-thousandths of one percent of the country's land mass, appear determined to disregard a decision of the country's highest court. Therefore, it's time for them to be taught as much about the Constitution's Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 (which defines Congress's total authority over the District of Columbia), as they were recently taught about the Second Amendment.

    In an effort to remedy the District's arrogant flouting of the Supreme Court's clear mandates, Representative Mark Souder (R-Ind.) recently introduced H. Res. 1331, a rule to govern House consideration of a modified version of H.R. 1399--the "District of Columbia Personal Protection Act." (H.R. 1399 was introduced in March of 2007 and has 247 cosponsors. For more information on H.R. 1399 and its Senate companion bill, S. 1001 by Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.), please go to NRA-ILA :: Fact Sheets)

    H. Res. 1331 would force House consideration of H.R. 1399 if activated by a discharge petition, which will require 218 congressional signatures. It would provide for speedy consideration of legislation to enforce the Supreme Court's decision in District of Columbia v. Heller by repealing the provisions of the D.C. Code that were at issue in that case, and by preventing the District from enacting the very restrictions they are now trying to foist on their residents' Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
    The law of tyranny:

    1. Any power that can be abused will be abused
    2. Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it.
    3. If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail.


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    I'm sure our buddies in the NRA are doing what they can to see this gets bogged down or thrown out...

    SF recently had a similar bill or CITY law overturned by the Kalifornia Supreme Court...

    Press On!

    "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur."


    James Paterson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tant01 View Post
    I'm sure our buddies in the NRA are doing what they can to see this gets bogged down or thrown out...
    The NRA is doing what it can but we must do our part with our vote and our voice. Get active, call and write you congressman and senator and tell them what your think about your second amendments rights.

    Lets all stand up for our rights!
    The law of tyranny:

    1. Any power that can be abused will be abused
    2. Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it.
    3. If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail.


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    http://www.robertringer.com/archives/vs239.htm


    The title of the article above is A Sad Day for America. It really does put all this in perspective.
    eXcessiveFORCE.

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    Excessive,

    I cannot agree with that article more.

    If you think about it if Kerry or Gore would have been elected president and appointed judges as bush had that decision would have gone the other way, and that my friend is just how fragile our rights are and why our votes are so important.

    Barrack may very well be our next president and 3 Supreme Court judges are set to retire, what will this mean to any future gun challenges, or any other challenges that might affect our freedoms?
    The law of tyranny:

    1. Any power that can be abused will be abused
    2. Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it.
    3. If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail.


    Welcome to the Socialist States of Amerika . Coming soon Jan 20th 2009!

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