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Old 12-10-2008, 12:27 PM   #46 (permalink)
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What an asshole. It's always the same old act with this clown pUke.
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Why not challenge those two to produce a recent article where someone tae-bo'd or wrestled three muggers with knives?
ROFLMAO, the last article I read about a wrestler was a local one where a college wrestler attacked a soldier with a maglight at Mcdonalds the soldier took the maglight and killed the wrestler with it. Finding an article where the sports fan survived the encounter (even the ones they start while armed against an unarmed opponent) ain't gonna be so easy, I'm betting all you get is more yapping from the mongrel with the scat fetish.
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You let days go by in order for those who have had the most to say to make a point and not simply nay-say posts, and not the facts contained in them. Once that happens, everything gets quiet and you begin hearing crickets chirp.

Also Garland about your experience outside of playing tag ....

Better yet, ask them to produce a story from a legitimate US newspaper where anyone from their system/school has ever been shown to actually defend themselves!

I've produced an article from a legitimate US paper that makes all the points that I have here. This story was broadcast nationwide as TTE and few others heard it in their states. There's no leap of faith here.
1) I do not live on the internet. Responding to your unfounded and preposterous arguments and childish name calling is not a priority on my list.
2) Good one. Sit there and make all the inane comments and personal attacks you can and try to rail on me for whatever you percieve as inexperience (I never made a personal attack, I simply stated that your actions were/are cowardly, not that YOU are a coward)... because from where I'm sitting...you're actions are pathetic, and you have no clue as to who I am, what I do, or what my experiences have been.
3) I'm not here to name drop or try and "prove" the efficacy of what I've trained in, especially through wasting my time hunting for news articles. I know I've seen articles in the past where a TKD practitioner or a shotokan guy have managed to difuse a mugging or a robbery (people get lucky)...it doesn't MEAN anything, skippy. But you're absolutely glowing after this article...are you really seeking validation in whatever it is you're training in so bad? If so, I have a brilliant idea...go walk around the rougher areas of your city late at night flashing a wad of cash...maybe then you can have some first hand experience instead of living vicariously through those who barely survived an encounter with providence looking over them.

Maybe if you hurry and do it soon, I won't have to respond to another one of your annoying posts.
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Nobody can say with certainty that they can survive a knife attack. That's like going into a boxing match and expecting not to get hit, but instead of a punch, one slice or stab is enough to end your existence. The individual in the story lived because the first cut wasn't life threatening. Lucky. They were then able to deploy their own knife...which...hey...wait a second...isn't carrying a concealed knife illegal in that state? Also VERY lucky...
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Nobody can say with certainty that they can survive a knife attack. That's like going into a boxing match and expecting not to get hit, but instead of a punch, one slice or stab is enough to end your existence. The individual in the story lived because the first cut wasn't life threatening. Lucky. They were then able to deploy their own knife...which...hey...wait a second...isn't carrying a concealed knife illegal in that state? Also VERY lucky...
I've seen guys that survived... I've seen guys that didn't. You know?

It's not pretty in either case.
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What an asshole. It's always the same old act with this clown pUke.
Call me an asshole if you like, but its apparent that calling names and screaming for attention like a child with ADHD is all you're good for. You're a one trick pony that's gotten old a long time ago. Talk about same ole act, Mr If you're going to be a grown ass idiot at least be funny and amusing.

If you're waiting for someone to introduce something new about combat that hasn't already been discussed then you're even more stupid that we pegged you for. If that's the case, there's nothing new about MMA or wrestling except for the fact more and more people aren't buying into the hype that suggests that those disciplines give you the tools that will keep you alive in situations like the one in this article. If it all seems too familiar its because MA facts don't change. Your buffoonery used to, but even that's predictable and stale nowadays.

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ROFLMAO, the last article I read about a wrestler was a local one where a college wrestler attacked a soldier with a maglight at Mcdonalds the soldier took the maglight and killed the wrestler with it. Finding an article where the sports fan survived the encounter (even the ones they start while armed against an unarmed opponent) ain't gonna be so easy, I'm betting all you get is more yapping from the mongrel with the scat fetish.
That's all we'll ever get and that's all we've ever gotten from jubaji: Bark fu and woof tickets.
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LOL! Just as I've been saying. You do nothing but repeat yourself over and over and over...
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1) I do not live on the internet. Responding to your unfounded and preposterous arguments and childish name calling is not a priority on my list.
2) Good one. Sit there and make all the inane comments and personal attacks you can and try to rail on me for whatever you percieve as inexperience (I never made a personal attack, I simply stated that your actions were/are cowardly, not that YOU are a coward)... because from where I'm sitting...you're actions are pathetic, and you have no clue as to who I am, what I do, or what my experiences have been.
3) I'm not here to name drop or try and "prove" the efficacy of what I've trained in, especially through wasting my time hunting for news articles. I know I've seen articles in the past where a TKD practitioner or a shotokan guy have managed to difuse a mugging or a robbery (people get lucky)...it doesn't MEAN anything, skippy. But you're absolutely glowing after this article...are you really seeking validation in whatever it is you're training in so bad? If so, I have a brilliant idea...go walk around the rougher areas of your city late at night flashing a wad of cash...maybe then you can have some first hand experience instead of living vicariously through those who barely survived an encounter with providence looking over them.

Maybe if you hurry and do it soon, I won't have to respond to another one of your annoying posts.
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Nobody can say with certainty that they can survive a knife attack. That's like going into a boxing match and expecting not to get hit, but instead of a punch, one slice or stab is enough to end your existence. The individual in the story lived because the first cut wasn't life threatening. Lucky. They were then able to deploy their own knife...which...hey...wait a second...isn't carrying a concealed knife illegal in that state? Also VERY lucky...
First, nobody guaranteed anything, Garland. You just keep exaggerating that point over and over again to make it seem that it was ever stated that anyone did. You're just so bent on defending "nothing is impossible", when that's already a given. That's the entirety of your argument. You are a scholar, and that's fine but your semantics have crossed the line into just lying when you make it seem as though anyone has guaranteed an outcome.

Second, I don't need any validation. This is one of many, many examples that I chose to share. I don't come here beating my chest saying that what I do is better than what you do, or what any one does. In fact, I rarely if ever discuss my teachers, the systems I've studied or what organizations I belong to.

The thing is Garland ... I don't need to.

You've never in the years that I've posted here seen me write that anyone should stop learning anything. If someone is happy with what they are doing, then live and let live. I have basically discussed distinctions, and many of them. I have the training and experience to discuss these things without having to drop names or endorse any particular system. I don't need to sell you or any one else on my beliefs and training, and I won't ever try. I wouldn't waste my time or disrespect my teachers by trying to prove anything to people over the internet.

This is just one article. Even if I produced 100 more you'd still argue that its a drop in the ocean of the world population, and you'd be right about that point. But I notice that in a world of billions of people and articles you still can't produce even one article about you or one of your brothers in tae-bo surviving let alone winning a mugging situation.

Here it is though:

I started this topic to discuss this article. The man in the story is from the same family. What about my post offended you so much that you needed to come running out talking shit? Was it my reference to Brewer's statement about being able to plan and calculate in situations like this article?

The man in the article and what I know he can do ... that's what I've talked about here. But here you come saying "this is bull ... this proves nothing ... luck played a roll ...".

As I said from the beginning, I shared the story to show how a real mugging unfolds and not the nice and neat sparring matches you and some others here pretend muggings to be. You know ... the kind where you can tae-bo or wrestle with men with knives?

Luck plays a role in every step you take and that's established. But for you, Garland, not to acknowledge that a man who was stabbed in the gut was able to assess the situation, deploy his weapon, take out all three of his attackers who were armed, call for help and survived to tell the story only shows that because you can't do it and clearly can't fathom anyone else doing it, you feel that you have to attribute it to luck. You're just as bad as the morons that insecurely attribute the pyramids to little green men from space because despite their self-perceived brilliance, they still can't explain or replicate them. They consider themselves scholars too, ya know.

Now how preposterous is that?
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LOL! Just as I've been saying. You do nothing but repeat yourself over and over and over...
And you don't? ....................
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But I notice that in a world of billions of people and articles you still can't produce even one article about you or one of your brothers in tae-bo surviving let alone winning a mugging situation.

As I said from the beginning, I shared the story to show how a real mugging unfolds and not the nice and neat sparring matches you and some others here pretend muggings to be. You know ... the kind where you can tae-bo or wrestle with men with knives?
Okay...these are prime examples of YOUR hubris and ignorance in the form of personal attacks on me. (Not very creative or even well articulated attacks, even...but I guess not everyone can be jubaji...who I feel is losing his touch, but I digress...)

You keep throwing out things like "tae bo" this and "wrestling" that...
I don't wrestle...and even though Billy Blanks is a handsome devil...he's basically an aerobics instructor. True, I have trained in and have a deep rooted love and affinity for thai boxing...but that doesn't make it the extent of my training. What do I train, Uke? Do you even know? Would it even matter? Have YOU ever seen a stabbing close up? Have you ever been the victim of a violent crime?

And yes, my dear, you are trying to beat your chest and do the whole "rah rah, my style is better than your style" martial pissing contest thingie... Which is PRECISELY why I even engaged in this thread...coupled with your cowardly personal attacks on an individual who can no longer defend his own arguments.

Hubris, per wikipedia:
"Hubris, sometimes spelled hybris (ancient Greek ?????), is a term used in modern English to indicate overweening pride, self-confidence, superciliousness, or arrogance, often resulting in fatal retribution. In ancient Greece, hubris referred to actions which, intentionally or not, shamed and humiliated the victim, and frequently the perpetrator as well.*
Aristotle defined hubris as follows: to cause shame to the victim, not in order that anything may happen to you, nor because anything has happened to you, but merely for your own gratification. Hubris is not the requital of past injuries; this is revenge. As for the pleasure in hubris, its cause is this: men think that by ill-treating others they make their own superiority the greater**"


*Your "beating of a dead horse" with Brewer was an act of hubris.
** Your argument thus far...pretty much.

Instead of addressing anything relevant, you keep doing uttering the same childish personal attacks.
PRIDE
EGO
STUBORNNESS
HUBRIS
NARCISSISM
all over inflated due to....
let me take a stab at it...
Insecurity? Self doubt? Self...contempt????
You have all of the personal characteristics of an archetypal bully.
You are more to be pittied than censored...and after seeing the same things appear over in your posts...I've come to feel for you Uke. I feel sorry for you.
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you still can't produce even one article about you or one of your brothers in tae-bo surviving let alone winning a mugging situation.



Did Garland ever claim that what he practiced was tae-bo? Or is that more of your lying bullshit, you dishonest pissy little no class punk?
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ROFLMAO, the last article I read about a wrestler was a local one where a college wrestler attacked a soldier with a maglight at Mcdonalds the soldier took the maglight and killed the wrestler with it. Finding an article where the sports fan survived the encounter (even the ones they start while armed against an unarmed opponent) ain't gonna be so easy, I'm betting all you get is more yapping from the mongrel with the scat fetish.
If I remember correctly, the wrestler slammed the solider down once or twice (on concrete) but the soldier remained calm and choked the wrestler out.

That's probably from the Army's current MAP program, which does include jj as well as other things. The soldier overcame the much larger, stronger adversary in any case.
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Yes Uke facts are not welcome here.

The FACT that Alex Gong died in full gear after running out of his gym to assault a car thief is not proof here that Muy Thai may not work in a street situation.

The FACT that the information provided in the article you posted shows that the MA practiced on used in the mugging worked is of no consequence.

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What you are doing here is wrong Uke stop pointing out inconsistencies in other people's arguments. We don't take kindly to that 'round these here parts boy!





But it sure is fun to watch.

Remember if you disagree and back it up with facts your just being a jerk!!
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If I remember correctly, the wrestler slammed the solider down once or twice (on concrete) but the soldier remained calm and choked the wrestler out.

That's probably from the Army's current MAP program, which does include jj as well as other things. The soldier overcame the much larger, stronger adversary in any case.
I believe in this instance the wrestler died as well. It happened in a parking lot not to far from here.
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