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Old 02-06-2006, 03:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I want to read about your favorite destruction technique, leg attack or bone breaking strike for crippling and maiming the lower appendages. Weapons are delightfully welcome here if you please. Why a leg? Why not?

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Edit to add disclaimer: This thread is for educational purposes only! Do not attempt any structural cutting or empty handed limb destructions without proper training... It is a violation of law to inflict trauma!
I am in no way responsible for any trauma inflicted on any person that might attempt to perform the techniques or tricks of bone breaking or joint destruction or cutting with any blade of any size...

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I want to read about your favorite destruction technique, leg attack or bone breaking strike for crippling and maiming the lower appendages. Weapons are delightfully welcome here if you please. Why a leg? Why not?

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yeah, I would like to read about everyone elses favorite lowline destructions as well !! or any other favorite fight enders you rely on....do tell, were listening
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Old 02-06-2006, 04:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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1. Low thrusting side kick.
2. Thai kick to outside thigh or after slipping a punch straight on the thigh or knee.
3. Low push kick.
4. Knee strikes to the thighs.
5. Foot stomp - can be done to set up a punch while closing the distance or as a strike while grappling (stand-up)

Any kick that's going to work has to be a kick that commits your body weight to the target and you have to be prepared with missing i.e. your opponent rides away from a thai kick or absorbs it and a cross is coming your way.

Setting up the kick too.

Hands need to either post on your opponent, be covering or just about to strike.

Grappling moves to the legs:

1. Knee bar - great defensive manuever when someone's got a rear bear hug, kind of works if they have a headlock - need to bump em first.

2. Ankle lock - if you end up in their guard (ground) or seize one of their kicks.

3. Ankle pin (if you have their back)

Takedowns

1. If you do a single leg, with shoulder hiting below the thigh, you could possible break the leg.

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All of these techniques are to be practiced with a qualified instructor and are intended for self-defense only.

I'll let someone else touch the weapon work to the legs.
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stikes
-thai kick followed through with the whole body to the crook of the knee.
-teap (stomp) to the knee, any direction
-steel toe kick/jump downward to the instep, then stand.
-goofy front kick or knee to the coxxyx.
-knee and elbow to the thigh (breaking the elephant's tusk)
-sipa kicks to the knee and shin
--knee to the inside of the thigh
--straight leg sweeping kick in clinche to knee, delivered like a curve knee.

holds/breaks
-heel hook
-knee bar
-calf stretch
-ankle lock

other
-pinch to the inside of the thigh
-tug on the achilles tendon with finger tips and thumb
-grind thumb into femoral or into hip cavity. (forget technical term)
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w/ weapons...

knife/edged
cut to achilles tendon
cut to hamsting, about an inch up from the bend of the knee in back
cut to the bend of the knee in back
cuts/stabs to the femoral artery
cut/stab to the perineum

stick/impact
"stinky" stick
strikes to the knee
holds with the stick

with a flexible weapon-assisted holds and takedowns
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knife/edged
cut to achilles tendon
cut to hamsting, about an inch up from the bend of the knee in back
cut to the bend of the knee in back
cuts/stabs to the femoral artery
cut/stab to the perineum

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Oh, you sick.....


The femoral is closer to the surface near the groin...


Yeah, that would mess up my day!
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There is an illegal throw in Judo they call Kani basami or scissors takedown.

This little known technique can be done in a "flying" variation where both feet and hands leave the ground or a "crab" version that you will post on one hand. There is a notable K-1 fighter that is famous for this throw. Remember his name?

It is banned from Judo because of the tendency to maim the Uke, esp. knees.

Kansetsu geri.. The stomping side kick to a locked knee.

The small bones in the foot can be broke easily enough that a stomp with the heel will break one or more...Intent is important.

If you should be so skilled as to catch a front kick twisting rapidly in one direction then forcefully twisting the opposite direction will cause severe trauma to the ankle or knee, the first turn brings the uke into position for destruction in the opposite direction. Don't do this to your friends!

I have others in mind but they work better after a takedown, these just make the takedown a bit easier...
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Jeez you guys are all sick... breaking peoples legs and that...

here's my favorites, although I admit limited knowledge in this...


1. Stomping on it!... Especially when its outstretched etc...
2. Kneebar...


Yeah thats it barehanded, really only thing I can think of...

I always thought kicking em in the knee from behind and pushing there face into the ground and ze kicking of the face would work more though.
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Oh, you sick.....


The femoral is closer to the surface near the groin...


Yeah, that would mess up my day!
...you only LET me put LOWER body stuff in...
there ARE other fight enders...you know.
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...you only LET me put LOWER body stuff in...
there ARE other fight enders...you know.

Yes... I know but I wanted to target the low line and see what came of it... I'll get up stairs in a few...

You could drag the destruction line off topic you know... Or start a new thread of your own.


I don't think a broken bone is a fight ender myself but it's a good start (at ending it) I tend towards overkill personally.
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The one I've used most often is just putting up an elbow in the line of an incoming punch. I've busted hands through 16 oz. boxing gloves with that before - the guy was really trying to take my head off, too.

My favorite story isn't my own, though. It involved a good friend of mine named Chris Lehman. He was slap-boxing with a friend at his house after a few months of classes, and he had learned destructions as well as some pretty effective strategies for how to control a fight. His friend, who had always been able to take him, wasn't faring so well and Chris was shutting down his every move. The guy eventually got angry and threw a leg kick, which Chris caught right on the tip of his knee, just as he'd trained. The guy's shin snapped clean, and his foot never hit the ground. He clutched his shin in both hands and fell to the ground, completely finished.

As for my own favorite destruction story, I once reacted to a guy who was trying to punch at my head from the side with a pretty good destruction. I was writing a paper and he sneaked in and threw a fake at my ear. I just caught it out of the corner of my eye and reacted by switching my pen into my left hand and giving his bicep a good hammerfist. Unfortunately, it lodged the pen a good inch into his arm. Worked, though. I don't think he'd have continued had it been a real fight, given the fit he threw...
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Hey Mike,

Have you studied Vu's RAT? Your destructions kinda sounded like something from his system.

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You might say that...
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what's the difference between the RAT stuff and other kali destructions, like guntings and elbow destructions?
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Paul simplifies things a little. Instead of using both hands (one to do the destruction and the other to guide the punch into the destruction), Paul more often than not just lets you run into it without a whole lot of extra effort. it's no different, really, except that it lets you keep one hand up and ready instead of using two hands against one attack.
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