Street Styles - Page 5

lorenzodamarith · 05-12-2007, 02:41 AM

hello,

ladies ladies ladies... (you know which ones you are)...

suggest checking out the thread intitled "a question of mindset". this seems to be an appropriate tangent for you all.

as far as the original question at hand.... which styles are effective?

well most of them really. many styles were developed with specific purposes in mind. when used properly, most are pretty good. but that really becomes an issue in an of itself... how many actually know how to use them for thier intended purpose.

note: this is aimed at the majors systems (not every self created hodge podge out there). judo, karate, muaythai, jiujitsu, cambo, wrestling, some kungfu's, fma's, silat.

it appears that the simpler a system is the better suited to streetfighting it becomes. that is likely do to the fact that most who will get into streetfights are not finished learning the basics of thier chosen systems.

granted, this is something of an oversymplification for the sake of expediency, but the idea remains the same. basic techniques done properly are your best bet.

by the numbers, it is likely that judo, wrestling and boxing have been used most often in "street situations". just a guess, based on the length of time they have been established worldwide and the number of students.

and ladies? yes. the use of the word ladies is in fact for dramatic effect!!

did it work? hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

check out that thread, it MIGHT help "crystallize" some of the thoughts you have on the subject. it might not. holler back when you get some time.

thanks.

Albert · 06-03-2007, 04:33 AM

"Thanks to those who explained why they carry weapons. I'm not convinced doing it is what I would call healthy but I don't live where you do so reserve judgement.

Yes, in a "street fight" I, and most other MAists would use a weapon if the situation demanded it. I just wondered if it was necessary to carry them when you lived somewhere relatively safe."

It really haz nothing to do with if you live in a relatively safe place or not, everyone should carry a knife, if you dont have one, simply because you feel safe and dont think you will need it, your just being ignorant, because should the time come you do need it, it will not be there. Carrying a knife doesnt have to have anything to do with believing your going to be killed by someone on the street if you dont have it with you, a knife iz a tool, i always have one on my belt, and i usually need to use it at least a few timez a day, to either cut something, or open something, or wutever, i mean thers a million and one daily uses for a knife that have nothing to do with any type of combat, but having it in case of an attack where its use is warranted iz just a bonus. And noone really lives in a completely safe place, for example, the town i live in iz not a dangerous place az far az crime goes, but just 10-15 minutes down the highway iz hartford, one of the most dangerous cities in this country, and people come in from there and other bad towns all the time. Think of a knife az a condom, lol, even if your probably not going to need it, itz better to have it just in case.

TKD Student · 07-27-2007, 10:18 PM

I don't really fight much... but if I have to I use Taekwondo kicks and punches, and some tricks of my own ^^

47MartialMan · 07-30-2007, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TKD Student

I don't really fight much... but if I have to I use Taekwondo kicks and punches, and some tricks of my own ^^

And what does a TKD kick and punch be specifically?

What sets it distinguishable from others?

TKD Student · 07-30-2007, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

And what does a TKD kick and punch be specifically?

What sets it distinguishable from others?

You mean what kicks/punches I would use?
If that's what you mean, I would say it depends on the situation...

WildWest. · 07-30-2007, 05:57 PM

TKD Student>

How often do you get into fights?

If you regularly use "TKD kicks/punches" then you must have some favourite technique that works good for you.

Can you give us some examples or are you making it up??

TKD Student · 07-30-2007, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildWest.

TKD Student>

How often do you get into fights?

If you regularly use "TKD kicks/punches" then you must have some favourite technique that works good for you.

Can you give us some examples or are you making it up??

Well, I don't really fight much...
But one thing that works good for me is a low kick (knee or something), then pitchagi or a punch in the belly/chest, punch to the face (nose) and then a kick in the side of the head. That works good for me.
Sometimes I use my knee if I can...

Or, I can smash the opponent over the ears (both with open hands) when I get a shot, and then kick in the side and a kick in the head, tornado or bandae-dollyo-chagi if I want to finish him hard.

But I prefer to stay out of fights as long as I can.

47MartialMan · 07-30-2007, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TKD Student

Well, I don't really fight much...
But one thing that works good for me is a low kick (knee or something), then pitchagi or a punch in the belly/chest, punch to the face (nose) and then a kick in the side of the head. That works good for me.
Sometimes I use my knee if I can...

Or, I can smash the opponent over the ears (both with open hands) when I get a shot, and then kick in the side and a kick in the head, tornado or bandae-dollyo-chagi if I want to finish him hard.

But I prefer to stay out of fights as long as I can.

See, thats what Im saying, these TKD tactics you speak of is not unparagoned to TKD.

And if one hasnt had many fights, one lack more expereince with many types of opponents.....to which such tactics yo had stated will not work in every situation.

Garland · 07-30-2007, 11:39 PM

I just farted.

TKD Student · 07-30-2007, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

See, thats what Im saying, these TKD tactics you speak of is not unparagoned to TKD.

And if one hasnt had many fights, one lack more expereince with many types of opponents.....to which such tactics yo had stated will not work in every situation.

I know it wouldn't work in every situation!
But if you read what I said, you should know that I told you that everything depends on the situation I'm in.

Garland · 07-31-2007, 12:36 AM

oh shit...what did I eat?

TKD Student · 07-31-2007, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garland

oh shit...what did I eat?

Broccoli? :P

TKD Student · 07-31-2007, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garland

oh shit...what did I eat?

Broccoli?

Edit: Sorry for spam!
I think I made a mistake... *cough!*

Garland · 07-31-2007, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TKD Student

Broccoli?

Edit: Sorry for spam!
I think I made a mistake... *cough!*

spam...no...it was more pungent and less...coagulated. It may have had broccolli in it...I think it was a panang curry.

I'm not spamming...it seemed like you guys were discussing bowel movements, so I jumped in.

darrianation · 08-02-2007, 02:32 PM

Simple is always good but you have to be careful not to simplify to the point of sacrificing robustness. That said a good system meets the needs of today’s potential threats and can account for a set of parameters from developing awareness and stress inoculation to defaults, decision making (choosing the best options), and efficient threat management against both armed and unarmed threats, single and multiple threats, and from the bad breath to stand off range.

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TKD Student Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 45 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't really fight much... but if I have to I use Taekwondo kicks and punches, and some tricks of my own ^^ __________________ I'm not stupid, I just have bad luck when I'm thinking.

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WildWest. Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 459 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	TKD Student> How often do you get into fights? If you regularly use "TKD kicks/punches" then you must have some favourite technique that works good for you. Can you give us some examples or are you making it up?? __________________ "Too much weights, not enough speed work"

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Garland Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 5,013 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I just farted. __________________ homo homini lupus

07-31-2007, 12:36 AM	#71 (permalink)
Garland Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 5,013 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	oh shit...what did I eat? __________________ homo homini lupus

08-02-2007, 02:32 PM	#75 (permalink)
darrianation Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,161 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Simple is always good but you have to be careful not to simplify to the point of sacrificing robustness. That said a good system meets the needs of today’s potential threats and can account for a set of parameters from developing awareness and stress inoculation to defaults, decision making (choosing the best options), and efficient threat management against both armed and unarmed threats, single and multiple threats, and from the bad breath to stand off range. __________________ The law of tyranny: 1. Any power that can be abused will be abused 2. Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it. 3. If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail. Welcome to the Socialist States of Amerika . Coming soon Jan 20th 2009!

05-12-2007, 02:41 AM	#61 (permalink)
lorenzodamarith Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 365 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	hello, ladies ladies ladies... (you know which ones you are)... suggest checking out the thread intitled "a question of mindset". this seems to be an appropriate tangent for you all. as far as the original question at hand.... which styles are effective? well most of them really. many styles were developed with specific purposes in mind. when used properly, most are pretty good. but that really becomes an issue in an of itself... how many actually know how to use them for thier intended purpose. note: this is aimed at the majors systems (not every self created hodge podge out there). judo, karate, muaythai, jiujitsu, cambo, wrestling, some kungfu's, fma's, silat. it appears that the simpler a system is the better suited to streetfighting it becomes. that is likely do to the fact that most who will get into streetfights are not finished learning the basics of thier chosen systems. granted, this is something of an oversymplification for the sake of expediency, but the idea remains the same. basic techniques done properly are your best bet. by the numbers, it is likely that judo, wrestling and boxing have been used most often in "street situations". just a guess, based on the length of time they have been established worldwide and the number of students. and ladies? yes. the use of the word ladies is in fact for dramatic effect!! did it work? hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! check out that thread, it MIGHT help "crystallize" some of the thoughts you have on the subject. it might not. holler back when you get some time. thanks.

06-03-2007, 04:33 AM	#62 (permalink)
Albert Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 74 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	"Thanks to those who explained why they carry weapons. I'm not convinced doing it is what I would call healthy but I don't live where you do so reserve judgement. Yes, in a "street fight" I, and most other MAists would use a weapon if the situation demanded it. I just wondered if it was necessary to carry them when you lived somewhere relatively safe." It really haz nothing to do with if you live in a relatively safe place or not, everyone should carry a knife, if you dont have one, simply because you feel safe and dont think you will need it, your just being ignorant, because should the time come you do need it, it will not be there. Carrying a knife doesnt have to have anything to do with believing your going to be killed by someone on the street if you dont have it with you, a knife iz a tool, i always have one on my belt, and i usually need to use it at least a few timez a day, to either cut something, or open something, or wutever, i mean thers a million and one daily uses for a knife that have nothing to do with any type of combat, but having it in case of an attack where its use is warranted iz just a bonus. And noone really lives in a completely safe place, for example, the town i live in iz not a dangerous place az far az crime goes, but just 10-15 minutes down the highway iz hartford, one of the most dangerous cities in this country, and people come in from there and other bad towns all the time. Think of a knife az a condom, lol, even if your probably not going to need it, itz better to have it just in case.

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