MMA Vs Kiai Master

HERQ454 · 09-13-2007, 08:22 AM

Apologise If this has been shown before.

YouTube - Kiai Master vs MMA

Britt · 09-13-2007, 09:25 AM

I saw that on one of the Kaju boards. All I can say is "ouch." Still, looking on the bright side, 200-1-0 still isn't too bad.

Albert · 09-23-2007, 10:16 AM

http://www.justfightvideos.com/fight...kids_video.htm

darrianation · 09-24-2007, 09:12 AM

I once attended an Aikido demonstration with a friend of mine who was interested in Aikido.

The master stood in the middle of the mat and his students one at a time came up and threw a punch at him and he easily threw them to the ground. He then asked anyone in attendance who wanted to come up and try.

One guy got up and threw a jab, cross combo, the Aikido master went for the feint and got clobbered by the cross. It turned out this guy was a boxer. My friend was no longer interested in Aikido.

It shows how easily folks can get caught up in their own faulty perceptions of reality based on faulty training that they reach a point were they completely ignore the independent reality.

In the example of the "Kiai" master he probably couldn't even figure out why he had failed. Being a human with no extrordinary powers was probably news to him.

darrianation · 09-24-2007, 09:31 AM

The same thing happened when George Dillman failed to knock out a National Geographic representative with a “Chi” knockout. Dillman's explanation went like this:

“The skeptic was a totally non-believer. Plus – I don't know if I should say that on film – but if the guy had his tongue in the wrong position in the mouth, that can also nullify it [chi power]. You can nullify it – you can nullify a lot of things. In fact, you can nullify it if you raise those two big toes! If I say I'm going to knock you out, and you raise one toe, and push one toe down....I can't knock you out. And then, if I go to try again, you reverse it. If you keep doing this, I won't knock you out.” Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dillman

Dillmen and all the other shysters are fucking lame!

dogzilla · 09-24-2007, 10:17 AM

the mma vs kiai master was faked (stacked) as i heard and read,... but it could be true,.. we will never know,.. since i have read they seen them both on diffrent places doing the same thing.. who knows...

Mike Brewer · 09-24-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HERQ454

Apologise If this has been shown before.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDaCIDvj6I

I cringe when I watch that. It's so sad to me. Watching that old man reach up and grab his busted mouth, looking bewildered at how that could have just happened to him...it's agonizing. Just absolutely gut-wrenching to see someone who has lived a life behind decades and decades of illusions get smashed apart into little tiny bits like that.

At the same time, it is a good lesson for those who believe that chi power
(even a lifelong study of it) is going to save them from a guy who just wants to kick them in the teeth and take their $5000...

Tom Yum · 09-24-2007, 11:16 PM

Chi power is great for health improvement, but not so much for self-defense.

darrianation · 09-25-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Brewer

I cringe when I watch that. It's so sad to me. Watching that old man reach up and grab his busted mouth, looking bewildered at how that could have just happened to him...it's agonizing. Just absolutely gut-wrenching to see someone who has lived a life behind decades and decades of illusions get smashed apart into little tiny bits like that.

At the same time, it is a good lesson for those who believe that chi power
(even a lifelong study of it) is going to save them from a guy who just wants to kick them in the teeth and take their $5000...

He paid the stupid tax!

Mike Brewer · 09-25-2007, 10:35 PM

Indeed. Still hard to watch, though. Seeing an old man getting his ass kicked is never a pretty thing - especially when he asked for it...wait, PAID for it.

Britt · 09-26-2007, 10:25 AM

It looks more like a mugging than a fight.

Michael Wright · 09-26-2007, 04:56 PM

I understand, from a friend in Japan, that this was a set up on the old man. All of the students in gi's that you see falling around in theatrics are not the old man's students, they are students of the MMA gym. They are playing along with the old man to strengthen his resolve. Then when it came time to do the business.....well, you see what happened.

That could be right, it could be wrong - but whatever the exact series of events I do think the poor old guy walked into a set up. That said, you need to be careful what you claim.

jubaji · 09-26-2007, 05:59 PM

More importantly, you need to be careful what you believe until you've tested it for real for yourself.

Michael Wright · 09-26-2007, 06:16 PM

From a personal point of view, I completely agree. But its a human characteristic called faith, and a few billion people in the world with no means to test it, hold onto it.

jubaji · 09-26-2007, 06:21 PM

Faith is supposed to be taken on faith. You don't 'test' faith by demanding an Angel appear or some such thing. Its metaphysical if you will.

The ability to defend oneself should not be a matter of faith, it should be something tested everyday so that when push comes to shove you KNOW (to within a reasonable tolerance) what you can and cannot expect to do.

If you theorize about what you can do, but never actually do it, you are to one degree or another just like that old man.

09-23-2007, 10:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
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09-24-2007, 09:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
darrianation Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,913	I once attended an Aikido demonstration with a friend of mine who was interested in Aikido. The master stood in the middle of the mat and his students one at a time came up and threw a punch at him and he easily threw them to the ground. He then asked anyone in attendance who wanted to come up and try. One guy got up and threw a jab, cross combo, the Aikido master went for the feint and got clobbered by the cross. It turned out this guy was a boxer. My friend was no longer interested in Aikido. It shows how easily folks can get caught up in their own faulty perceptions of reality based on faulty training that they reach a point were they completely ignore the independent reality. In the example of the "Kiai" master he probably couldn't even figure out why he had failed. Being a human with no extrordinary powers was probably news to him. __________________ In hills, as well as in villages and cities, hazards and predators find those who walk backwards.- Ezekiel Sanchez

09-24-2007, 09:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
darrianation Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,913	The same thing happened when George Dillman failed to knock out a National Geographic representative with a “Chi” knockout. Dillman's explanation went like this: “The skeptic was a totally non-believer. Plus – I don't know if I should say that on film – but if the guy had his tongue in the wrong position in the mouth, that can also nullify it [chi power]. You can nullify it – you can nullify a lot of things. In fact, you can nullify it if you raise those two big toes! If I say I'm going to knock you out, and you raise one toe, and push one toe down....I can't knock you out. And then, if I go to try again, you reverse it. If you keep doing this, I won't knock you out.” Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dillman Dillmen and all the other shysters are fucking lame! __________________ In hills, as well as in villages and cities, hazards and predators find those who walk backwards.- Ezekiel Sanchez

09-24-2007, 10:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
dogzilla Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 135	the mma vs kiai master was faked (stacked) as i heard and read,... but it could be true,.. we will never know,.. since i have read they seen them both on diffrent places doing the same thing.. who knows... __________________ R.I.P my dear MOTHER (1965-2004) Martial arts history: Past: 8 years of Judo Present: Taekwondo

09-24-2007, 11:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,178	Chi power is great for health improvement, but not so much for self-defense. __________________ The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know. Slow is fast; fast is slow. Love it, leave it or fix it.

09-13-2007, 09:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
Britt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 542	I saw that on one of the Kaju boards. All I can say is "ouch." Still, looking on the bright side, 200-1-0 still isn't too bad.

09-25-2007, 10:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mike Brewer Moderate Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,085	Indeed. Still hard to watch, though. Seeing an old man getting his ass kicked is never a pretty thing - especially when he asked for it...wait, PAID for it.

09-26-2007, 10:25 AM	#11 (permalink)
Britt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 542	It looks more like a mugging than a fight.

09-26-2007, 04:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
Michael Wright Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 893	I understand, from a friend in Japan, that this was a set up on the old man. All of the students in gi's that you see falling around in theatrics are not the old man's students, they are students of the MMA gym. They are playing along with the old man to strengthen his resolve. Then when it came time to do the business.....well, you see what happened. That could be right, it could be wrong - but whatever the exact series of events I do think the poor old guy walked into a set up. That said, you need to be careful what you claim.

09-26-2007, 05:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
jubaji Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 8,354	More importantly, you need to be careful what you believe until you've tested it for real for yourself. __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

09-26-2007, 06:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
Michael Wright Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 893	From a personal point of view, I completely agree. But its a human characteristic called faith, and a few billion people in the world with no means to test it, hold onto it.

09-26-2007, 06:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
jubaji Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: koko Posts: 8,354	Faith is supposed to be taken on faith. You don't 'test' faith by demanding an Angel appear or some such thing. Its metaphysical if you will. The ability to defend oneself should not be a matter of faith, it should be something tested everyday so that when push comes to shove you KNOW (to within a reasonable tolerance) what you can and cannot expect to do. If you theorize about what you can do, but never actually do it, you are to one degree or another just like that old man. __________________ Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

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