Garland

My concept is to train as if you're being locked up tomorow with bad people who don't like you, and most likely want to do you harm.

Again, be able to use the environment, alot of situational awareness...try to cover all ranges of combat- weapons, stand-up striking, trapping, clinch/prummb, grappling, and all of the above with a weapon or against a weapon.

mass attacks, third party defense, etc. etc.

Train static (have to ingrain that shit into muscle memory somehow...), then live...

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Tom Yum

Darrianation, I'm absorbing your stuff since this is basically what I'll be doing rather soon.

Here's a question for all:

How do you fight an ememy....on paper? Where the pen is mightier than the sword?

How do you fight someone who is stalking you electronically, using signal technology to listen to your personal conversations, sending key-loggers to your computer to see what you are typing and watching you when you hang out? And I'm talking about non-governmental agency here.

The person could be any number of folks: papparazzi type folks with excellent photoshop skills, a fraudster looking to steal your identity and cash out on your personal information or a bitter ex-girlfriend/colleague/or what have trying to set you up.

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darrianation

I went through the Jarvis program in Oklahoma training in counter surveillance techniques. But that was some time ago and I am afraid a lot of that stuff is outdated now.

I recently went to a counter surveillance course a couple of months ago taught by a NSA guy, if I can find my notes I’ll write down a few things, but this was more geared towards protecting privacy and from becoming a victim of identity fraud. The material was pretty dry and i must admit I didn't pay attention very well.

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DickHardman

thats why i included that picture of Nasty Nate as one of the people you should train for. if you get thrown in jail over some bs, you may find yourself with this guy... http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=001e8445ef .. or Nasty Nate as your cell mate..

or what if you get thrown in jail over some bs like some parking tickets and have to hang out with tossed salad man???

YouTube - tossed salad man

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darrianation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIBc5CgjHxs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlREHJJA-HU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZHzgTAmu6k

There are guys just like these guys walking around out there with us…right now today. Some have gotten out of prison after serving their sentences and some just haven’t been caught yet. Many prisoners have openly admitted to perpetrating other heinous crimes that they were never caught for.

75% of prisoners return to prison after being released becuase they continue to commit more crimes. A smaller percentage continue to commit crimes but don’t get caught while even a smaller percentage of released prisoners stop committing crimes.

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darrianation

Tom, This is for you bro’

My expertise when it comes to surveillance countermeasures are more along the lines of "electronic surveillance countermeasure" but here is a small sample of what I have learned about privacy countermeasures...

Unfortunately the covert stuff we use to be able to get away with a few years ago no longer throws those who would pry off the scent. This is because of new tracking technologies that are coming on line everyday. Old remedies such as mail drops and mail forwarding services are easily negated by people with recourse who wants to find you.

First of all you have very little privacy and there is little you can do about it. There are privacy laws on the books but they are rarely followed.

I am not going to teach how to go and spy on other people but here are a few things you should know:

Ask yourself-

• What are your threats?
• And what should you keep private and how?

You need to assess your personal level of threat.

Ask yourself these questions:

• Do you have something to hide?
• Are you afraid of identity theft?
• Are you afraid of unscrupulous lawyers?
• What other threats do you have?

If you are afraid of the Government spying on you, well I’m afraid there isn’t much you can do other than stop whatever illegal activity you are involved in. If the Government wants to spy on you, you can’t stop them or counter them without a lot of money and highly trained highly specialized technicians and computer programmers working for you…and most of them work for the government.

The way the government spies on people is by mining personal data to track individual behavior and consumer transactions to develop computer algorithms that create a pattern that some behavioral scientist say can predict terrorist behavior.

This data can include credit card transactions, telephone or internet details, medical records, travel and banking information.

So, unless you are a terrorist I really wouldn’t worry too much about the government spying on you. But it would be a good idea to self-censor, to some degree, before you spill out every thought you have onto the internet.

Most likely threats to privacy and identity come by way of :

• Lost or stolen laptops.
• Hacked databases.
• Lost or stolen backup tapes/CDs.
• Public records such as arrest records, court documents, school records, library records, travel records, social welfare information, tax information, and the US census, etc, etc.
• Inside jobs.
• The beigest threat today comes from illegal aliens stealing your identity.

Your trash is the number one place to get your information because bank account info, credit card numbers, social security numbers are often used to identify you on bills and statement information. Shred all documents before putting them into the trash!

Other ways information is stolen is through sloppy information handling by the government and educational institutions, attacks on web browsers, and fraudulent black market debit/credit cards stolen from US banks (these are often inside jobs).

Corporations have become adept on spying on and amassing huge volumes of data on you. This information is kept in databases such as Nexus Lexus and Choice point (among others).

Write them and ask what they have on you, you would be amazed of all the info they have. You can ask them to remove it and by law they have to (within 6months) but they probably won’t. And your lawyers within the limited amount of money you can pay them will be no match for their unlimited recourses. Corporate spying on individual consumers is a multi billion dollar industry. They won’t stop! You may be able to use anti stocking laws to get your information off their database.

Some things you can do:

OPSEC-

Identify critical information.
Analyze potential threats.
Analyze your vulnerabilities.
Assess your risk.
Apply counter measures.

Remember this acronym “SWOT” Strength, Weakness, Opportunity, Threat. That is how I have always conducted a threat assessment for a client.

What is Critical info that a would-be thief might want to still from you?

• SSN
• Bank account #/credit card #
• PIN
• Physical location
• Mothers maiden name
• Passwords
• Info kept on databases such as Nexus Lexus and choice point
• Credit reports

What can you reasonably protect yourself against?

Examples-

Unskilled identity thieves
Well founded/skilled hackers
News media
Big Brother

Where are you vulnerable?

Examples-

What do you depend on?
How do you conduct business?
What will the bad guys be attracted to?
Think like a criminal?

Prioritize risk:

Are your threats interested in what you are protecting?
What about tomorrow?
Plug the big holes fist.

Countermeasures:

Develop a range of responses and consider effectiveness, cost, and feasibility. Plan your Reponses ahead of time and use the OODA.

Be active in protecting you information and only generate the bare minimum you have to to conduct your affairs. Try not to stick out but be assertive about protecting your info…one thing I like to do is misspell stuff like my name or if I have to give out my SS # I will usually kick the last couple of numbers. I can always claim it was a simple mistake later if I am caught but that rarely happens.

For each counter measure think about:

• Action
• Purpose
• Positive result
• Any drawbacks

And execute the counter measure accordingly.

Anonymizing your purchase data:

Bearer transactions VS. Book entry- Use cash whenever possible

Dependant credit card pseudonym-A legal credit card in some other name or
use one time credit card numbers. Be careful about what can be linked to you, buy with cash.

Mailing vs. physical address- create a mailing address and only give out to trusted friends. PO boxes don’t work because they can be linked to you. Renting a business mail address with mail forwarding is a better option.

I really could get into how to beat the system such as how to set up phony mail forwarding, obtain credit cards with a different name on them, how to get ID cards under another name, etc, all day long but at some point I have to self-censor what I say on a public forum.

Suffice it to say you can protect your address by claiming you are a victim of stalking or domestic violence and having a health care clinic apply for anonymous address confidentiality on your behalf. In most states you can do this on your own.

Other ideas of “what NOT to do”:

• Don’t subscribe to magazines from you home address.
• Don’t use your middle initial.
• Don’t put your name on you mail box or apt. mail box.
• Don’t ever use your mother’s maiden name or your maiden name.
• Don’t use the last 4 digits of your SS# as you PIN.
• Don’t leave outgoing mail with checks and bill payment info at a rural mailbox or office outgoing mail.
• Don’t say your SS# or CC# out load in a public place.
• Don’t put your home address, phone number, or driver’s license number on your printed checks
• Avoid using 800, 877, 866, or 900 # from your home phone.

Other ideas:

• Unpublished and unlisted home phone.
• Use caller ID blocker.
• Remove yourself from reveres directories.
• Us a PO box number on your driver’s license (not all states allow this).
• Photocopy all important documents.
• Do not carry more than one credit card in your wallet at a time.
• Store your personal info in a safe place.
• Always take your CC receipt with you and shred them.
• Shred all pre-approved CC offers.
• Pick up new checks at bank instead of them being mailed to you.
• Create a separate bank account just for billing…I learned this the hard way.
• Use a gel pen for writing checks- makes washing the check harder.
• Shred or store cancelled check in a safe place.
• UPS keeps a data base.

Opt-out from lists:

Do not cal registry
Pre-approved credit cards
DMA mail preference service
Tele-marketeers

These things put you on a list.

Spycraft:

“In modern urban areas your presence and movements are recorded all over the place. However, those records are almost never consulted unless something happens.”

• Look and behave low key, and be friendly.
• Don’t look like a badguy.
• No matter what you do you will leave a trail but leave a trail that doesn’t give anyone a reason to give you a second look.
• Make a choice about making something traceable to you.
• Don’t do dumb –ass things.

Review:

Find out what’s out there on you.

Dead end what trails you can.

Don’t create too many new tracks.

Keep a low profile.

Use common sense!

There is a book by J.J. Luna- “how to be invisible” that might be worth getting.

This is a big subject area that would take a book to explain in any detail…and that’s nuff for now.

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Tom Yum

I'm not concerned about government agency stuff, that's expected and understood but there are unscrupulous folks out there who can and will mess with you electronically and who would like nothing more than to mess you up.

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darrianation

Unfortunately, it is far too easy to get information on you (I mean anyone). Privacy is an extinct dinosaur.

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Tom Yum

I know this far too well from being on the wrong end.

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darrianation

This is why I train the way I do! And the reason why I am always armed!

Off-duty Wis. deputy sheriff kills 6
By ROBERT IMRIE, Associated Press Writer 9 minutes ago

An off-duty sheriff's deputy went on a shooting rampage early Sunday at a home where seven young people had gathered for pizza and movies, killing six and critically injuring the other before authorities fatally shot him, officials said.


The gunman, Tyler Peterson, was 20 years old and worked full-time as a Forest County deputy sheriff and part-time as a Crandon police officer, said Police Chief John Dennee.

Three of the victims were students at the small town's high school, and three were recent graduates, a school official said. The gunman may have graduated from the same high school.

Peterson was not working at the time of the shooting, Sheriff Keith Van Cleve said.

The survivor was hospitalized in nearby Marshfield, Dennee said. A Crandon police officer who fired back was treated for minor injuries and released.
Gary Bradley, mayor of the city of about 2,000, said earlier Sunday that a sniper killed the suspect, but Van Cleve would not confirm that officers shot the suspect.

The circumstances of the shooting were hazy Sunday and it wasn't immediately clear what the gunman's motive was, but the mother of a 14-year-old victim said the suspect may have been a jealous boyfriend. The shooting occurred in a white, two-story duplex about a block from downtown Crandon.

"It was a pizza and movie party," Dennee said.
Three of the victims were Crandon High School students, said schools Superintendent Richard Peters, and the other three had graduated within the past three years.

"There is probably nobody in Crandon who is not affected by this," Peters said, adding that students would be especially affected. "They are going to wake up in shock and disbelief and a lot of pain."

Peters did not know whether Peterson had also graduated from the 300-student high school. But Crandon resident Karly Johnson, 16, said that she knew the gunman and that he had helped her in a tech education class.
"He graduated with my brother," she said. "He was nice. He was an average guy. Normal. You wouldn't think he could do that."

One of the dead was 14-year-old Lindsey Stahl, said her mother, Jenny Stahl, 39.

She said her daughter called her Saturday night and asked whether she could sleep over at a friend's house. Jenny Stahl agreed.

"I'm waiting for somebody to wake me up right now. This is a bad, bad dream," the weeping mother said. "All I heard it was a jealous boyfriend and he went berserk. He took them all out."

A second victim was Bradley Schultz, 20, a third-year student at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee who was home to visit his friends, said his aunt, Sharon Pisarek.

"We still don't have many details, but from what they've told us, there was a girl next to him and he was covering her, protecting her," she said, sobbing. "He was loved by everybody. He was everybody's son. Senseless."
Marci Franz, 35, who lives two houses south of the duplex, said gunshots awoke her.

"I heard probably five or six shots, a short pause and then five or six more," she said. "I wasn't sure if it was gunfire initially. I thought some kids were messing around and hitting a nearby metal building."

Then she heard eight louder shots and tires squealing, she said.
"I was just about to get up and call it in, and I heard sirens," she said. "There's never been a tragedy like this here. There's been individual incidents, but nothing of this magnitude."

Her husband, David Franz, 36, said it was hard to accept that someone in law enforcement committed such an act.

"The first statement we said to each other was, how did he get through the system?" David Franz said. "How do they know somebody's background, especially that young? It is disturbing, to say the least."

The sheriff said he would meet with state Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen on Monday morning to discuss the case. Dennee said the state Department of Criminal Investigation will handle the case because the suspect was a deputy and officer.

The Crandon School District called off classes Monday.
The community, about 225 miles north of Milwaukee in an area known for logging and outdoor activities, is facing a trying time but is pulling together, Bradley said.

"We are a strong community. We always have been," he said. "This is agonizing, but we will prevail."

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Police: Two Teens Die After Attacking Security Guard
POSTED: 6:34 am CDT October 4, 2007
UPDATED: 11:32 am CDT October 4, 2007


DALLAS -- Two teens are dead after police said they tried to rob a security guard patrolling a shopping center parking lot overnight.

Police said three men approached the security guard and told him to get out of his car just before midnight Thursday in the Golden Triangle Shopping Center near the intersection of West Redbird Lane and Highway 67.

The security guard obliged and then fired his rifle at them, hitting two of three, according to police. One of those shot by the guard was Sergi Vann, 19, who died shortly after arriving at Methodist Medical Center.

The other was identified as DeTavias Davis, 17, who was able to drive away after being shot. Police said another car crashed into his, and he also died shortly after arriving at Methodist Medical Center.

The third man returned to the scene, where police placed him in handcuffs and took him away. No charges have been filed.

The security guard is unharmed, according to police.
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ClickOnDetroit.com
Police: Carjacker Shot During Carjacking

POSTED: 7:31 am EDT September 28, 2007
UPDATED: 9:27 am EDT September 28, 2007


DETROIT -- Detroit police are investigating a carjacking outside their headquarters in downtown Detroit.

Officers said three people attempted to carjack a man around 11 p.m. Thursday.

The carjacking victim was carrying a gun and fired at the men, shooting and killing one.

Police said the shooter had a license to carry the firearm.

The two other men are in police custody.


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darrianation

What would you do if you were told sometime today you’ll be attacked buy someone with a gun?

If I knew I was going to be in a gunfight today, I would stay home! But if that wasn’t possible I'd carry a rifle (an AK47), my Glock 23 as backup, wear body armor, and carry all the extra ammo I can.

Obviously that's not a very reasonable thing to do on a day to day basis for most of us. That is why I keep that stuff in my car and near my bed where I can reasonably get to it in a emergency.

On a more realistic note, as a civilian you will not likely know the fight is coming in advance. The rifle is for when you know you are going to be in a fight and the pistol is for when you don’t know you’ll be in a fight.

I'm a firm believer in carrying the gun you'd want to fight with in a gunfight, because if you get into a gunfight, you'll probably be using the pistol you carry most often. I carry a Glock 23 every day because it's the pistol I'd want in the event that I got into a gunfight.

While I will pick my gear based on how I will likely deploy this weapon system, I don't want to exclude anything because someone (like the NRA perhaps) decided that this doesn't fit into a typical civilian gunfight.

Rather than try to dumb things down for the "Typical Civilian Gunfight Fight", I seek to learn to use the weapon to its full capabilities. I want to be able to beat an enemy to death with it as well as shoot him from contact range if need be to shooting across the ravine. I want to learn to do CQB in a house as well as learn small unit tactics. I want to study the complete art of the gun, and not just what a typical civilian might need.

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DickHardman

tom bro, something about your posts gives me the feeling that you are only a few instant messages away from appearing on dateline NBC