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Old 10-03-2007, 06:57 PM   #46 (permalink)
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It’s funny…those who pass judgment on folks like myself are the first ones to coming ruining to folks like myself for help when the SHTF.
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Once I was driving fro Houston Texas to back home when I was caught like many folks in a really bad snow storm along the Texas New Mexico border.

I came upon stranded family after stranded family along interstate 40. Some were out of gas because they ran their cars for the heat; many had no food or water or blankets to keep warm in the freezing cold temperatures. I gave rides to folks and went back for more. I passed out bottles of water, blankets, and MREs that were all part of my emergency kit that I keep in all my cars.

Their lives were mad more bearable because of a paranoid SOB like me.
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Well,

I was over there as a security contractor not part of the military, though I was a soldier once, some years ago.

My wife has put up with a lot of crap from me, I spent a year in Bosnia during the Bosnian war. Afterwards I did protection for a witness at the war crimes tribunal at the Haag who was testifying against Milosevic where I made several trips over a couple of years to the Haag. I did assignments to Chechnya and Iraq, as well as a few other places.

My wife finally said NUFF! Nuff said.

I was working on a proposal to contract with the state department to train Iraqi civilians and paramilitary forces to do security in Iraq but after I did all the work writing up the proposal my boss didn’t send it in on time and the State Department got it after the deadline.

So, I am basically unemployed right now and loving every minute of it. I do part time gun classes and teach tactical and outdoor medicine but the next time I will actually teach will be in Central America (jungle fighting) but that isn’t until after the New Year.

Enough about me though.
hey is there anyway you can tell us about your experience in bosnia??? i actually had like 5 classmates in middleschool who were bosnian war refugees, they would tell us some true horror stories man. one of them said he saw serb troops throwing a bosnian baby back and forth between one another, catching it on the ends of their bayonets.......and these kids were only 5th graders man, they had seen family members and friends killed in front of them.
i know that we worked with iran to funnel weapons into bosnia, were you somehow a part of that operation?? what was the deal?
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hey is there anyway you can tell us about your experience in bosnia??? i actually had like 5 classmates in middleschool who were bosnian war refugees, they would tell us some true horror stories man. one of them said he saw serb troops throwing a bosnian baby back and forth between one another, catching it on the ends of their bayonets.......and these kids were only 5th graders man, they had seen family members and friends killed in front of them.
i know that we worked with iran to funnel weapons into bosnia, were you somehow a part of that operation?? what was the deal?
Dick,

There were a lot of fucked up things that happened over there. I have heard of far worse stories if that is possible.

The worst thing that happened to me personally was some kids were playing in a field and one stepped on a land mine. My teammate and I heard the blast and my friend (teammate) took off into the field without hesitation and he stepped on a mine (lost half his leg). I then went in because I didn’t want him to bleed to death. I was terrified and my adrenalin was pumping so hard I could feel my heart beat in my ears. Another teammate and I was able to retrieve both the kid and our friend with no further injury. I then assisted the surgeon take his leg off, a below the knee amputation, without any anesthesia. The kid died a little while later.

The sadist thing I saw was everywhere I went there were kids but no adults. When I would ask the kids where their parents were? I got the same answer over and over again, “they’re dead”. And most of the kids had injuries themselves.

I saw many surgeries performed without any anesthesia. I held patients down while the surgeon sawed off their limbs. I had never seen suffering like that ever, it was terrible beyond words.

I made it my mission to get those folks pharmaceuticals. I went there as a security advisor and I ended up becoming a medical equipment/pharmaceutical smuggler of sorts. I once stole an ambulance in Germany and drove it to Sarajevo.

I fucking hate the UN and the World Health Organization for their interference with our ability to get medicine and equipment into the country. They interfered on a greater scale with our operation than did Milosevic’s goons (though we often had to fight his goons to keep our supplies).

I still have nightmares about that place. If anything has changed me as a person it was Bosnia.
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It’s funny…those who pass judgment on folks like myself are the first ones to coming ruining to folks like myself for help when the SHTF.
I understand, and I'll do my part by not running to my nearest bug-eyed paranoid survivalist when the poop starts hitting the fan.
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I understand, and I'll do my part by not running to my nearest bug-eyed paranoid survivalist when the poop starts hitting the fan.
That would be appreciated.
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When I go to various training venues around the country I have the wonderful opportunity to meet and interact with folks from around the country and in some settings from around the world.

I think my behavior is more prevalent out there than you are comfortable believing.
I agree with your last statement and am quite comfortable with that.
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I agree with your last statement and am quite comfortable with that.
Me too!!! I agree with his statement also. I know lots of Gunaholic/Survivalist
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Dick,

There were a lot of fucked up things that happened over there. I have heard of far worse stories if that is possible.

The worst thing that happened to me personally was some kids were playing in a field and one stepped on a land mine. My teammate and I heard the blast and my friend (teammate) took off into the field without hesitation and he stepped on a mine (lost half his leg). I then went in because I didn’t want him to bleed to death. I was terrified and my adrenalin was pumping so hard I could feel my heart beat in my ears. Another teammate and I was able to retrieve both the kid and our friend with no further injury. I then assisted the surgeon take his leg off, a below the knee amputation, without any anesthesia. The kid died a little while later.

The sadist thing I saw was everywhere I went there were kids but no adults. When I would ask the kids where their parents were? I got the same answer over and over again, “they’re dead”. And most of the kids had injuries themselves.

I saw many surgeries performed without any anesthesia. I held patients down while the surgeon sawed off their limbs. I had never seen suffering like that ever, it was terrible beyond words.

I made it my mission to get those folks pharmaceuticals. I went there as a security advisor and I ended up becoming a medical equipment/pharmaceutical smuggler of sorts. I once stole an ambulance in Germany and drove it to Sarajevo.

I fucking hate the UN and the World Health Organization for their interference with our ability to get medicine and equipment into the country. They interfered on a greater scale with our operation than did Milosevic’s goons (though we often had to fight his goons to keep our supplies).

I still have nightmares about that place. If anything has changed me as a person it was Bosnia.
thats crazy man. i cant believe you were involved in all that. is there more you can tell us about what was going on in bosnia?

is it true our own allies were arming the serbs?? did the americans that were helping out the bosnian muslims ever fight against allied personel in bosnia?? and why would our allies arm people we were trying to fight???

also what kind of people did we send over to bosnia?? were they special forces units of our military or more like security contractors??? were our people there to fight serbs or to help the bosnians fight them? what exactly was americas goal in sending people over to bosnia??

did american units ever fight alongside foreign mujahidin in bosnia??
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thats crazy man. i cant believe you were involved in all that. is there more you can tell us about what was going on in bosnia?

is it true our own allies were arming the serbs?? did the americans that were helping out the bosnian muslims ever fight against allied personel in bosnia?? and why would our allies arm people we were trying to fight???

also what kind of people did we send over to bosnia?? were they special forces units of our military or more like security contractors??? were our people there to fight serbs or to help the bosnians fight them? what exactly was americas goal in sending people over to bosnia??

did american units ever fight alongside foreign mujahidin in bosnia??
To my knowledge the speculation was that weapons were being channelled through the Pakistani ISI (Inter Services Intelligence) to foreign Mujahideen mercenaries in Bosnia. These weapons were coming from both China and Iran. Afghan Mujahedin began to covertly infiltrate Croatia during the later part of 1994. Troops deployed from Bangladesh took part in aiding these Afghan guerrillas.

Iran with the nod of approval from the U.S. supplied artillery pieces and rockets to Muslim fighters in Bosnia. Also it was known but NOT sanctioned by the U.S. that some several hundred members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard arrived in Bosnia with a large supply of arms and ammunition and stayed to carryout terrorist operations in Europe.

Along with the weapons, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and VEVAK intelligence operatives entered Bosnia in large numbers, along with thousands of mujahedin from across the Muslim world. Also engaged in the effort were several other Muslim countries, including Brunei, Malaysia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and Turkey.

A large consortium of radical Muslim organizations also infiltrated into Bosnia such as the Sudan-based "humanitarian organization," called the Third World Relief Agency,who played a major role in the arms pipeline to Bosnia.

To my knowledge the U.S. did help provide arms and training to Muslim fighters and the mission of the US Special Forces was to establish a command, control, communications and intelligence networks to coordinate and support “Bosnian Muslim” offensives.
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To my knowledge the speculation was that weapons were being channelled through the Pakistani ISI (Inter Services Intelligence) to foreign Mujahideen mercenaries in Bosnia. These weapons were coming from both China and Iran. Afghan Mujahedin began to covertly infiltrate Croatia during the later part of 1994. Troops deployed from Bangladesh took part in aiding these Afghan guerrillas.

Iran with the nod of approval from the U.S. supplied artillery pieces and rockets to Muslim fighters in Bosnia. Also it was known but NOT sanctioned by the U.S. that some several hundred members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard arrived in Bosnia with a large supply of arms and ammunition and stayed to carryout terrorist operations in Europe.

Along with the weapons, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and VEVAK intelligence operatives entered Bosnia in large numbers, along with thousands of mujahedin from across the Muslim world. Also engaged in the effort were several other Muslim countries, including Brunei, Malaysia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and Turkey.

A large consortium of radical Muslim organizations also infiltrated into Bosnia such as the Sudan-based "humanitarian organization," called the Third World Relief Agency,who played a major role in the arms pipeline to Bosnia.

To my knowledge the U.S. did help provide arms and training to Muslim fighters and the mission of the US Special Forces was to establish a command, control, communications and intelligence networks to coordinate and support “Bosnian Muslim” offensives.
wow man, i never knew so many other countries were involved. despite the fact that some of those mujahidin were terrorists and had other ideas in mind, inmop we did the right thing. those bosnian muslims were being massacred, and if it wasnt for our intervention they would have all been exterminated. they needed help.

i read some articles that mentioned how some of our allies like italy and israel were helping the serbs. why would they arm people we were trying to fight against??
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wow man, i never knew so many other countries were involved. despite the fact that some of those mujahidin were terrorists and had other ideas in mind, inmop we did the right thing. those bosnian muslims were being massacred, and if it wasnt for our intervention they would have all been exterminated. they needed help.

i read some articles that mentioned how some of our allies like italy and israel were helping the serbs. why would they arm people we were trying to fight against??
Sense we are on the subject let’s take a look at the wars in the Balkans.

Iran of course did have interests in Bosnia and Kosovo and were known to have supported the Mujahadeen with their mini campaignes within the Borders of Bosnia.

Iran has often been known in the past for multi-nationally supporting Islamic movements with militant merchandise and even with small scale on the ground covert invasions using Mujahadeen forces. But I think a further investigation into who was allying with the Serbs, Bosnians, and Iranians at the time would be more revealing of Iranian motives during that particular period of time.

There also may have been other supporting factors for Iranian involvement in supporting the Bosnians as well. Like that of the movement of trade and currency. Also keep in mind that after the collapse of the Berlin wall the German Deutschmark began to rapidly become an accepted and commonly used multinational currency throughout Europe. The deutschmark was becoming a commonly used form of currency throughout Yugoslavia and in fact was much stronger than the Yugoslavian currencies at the time. So, one could speculate that Iran had a sincere disinterest in the spread of such a strong European economic influence moving closer to and possibly infiltrating its borders and powers.

I definitely know of one staunch ally of the Serbian movement who was at the time an ally to the United States. There was supposedly plenty of evidence of the backburner involvement of the Russians to assist the Serbs in utterly conquering and or destroying Bosnia, and Croatia from 1992 until 1995. Of course this speculation was even further reinforced when the Russians were especially interested in being involved with the United States led NATO invasion of Yugoslavia to assist in removing the Yugoslavian/Serb military from its own province of Kosovo in 1999.

The Russians were deeply offended when certain NATO countries involved with the war were trying to mitigate a disapproval of the Russians from entering the war because of its partisan relations with Yugoslavia’s prior conflict with Bosnia and Croatia. The United States even had a sort of stalemate stand off with the Russian military over Kosovo during our military offensive against Yugoslavia. NATO and the US ordered the Russians to pull out of Kosovo but that order was defiantly ignored.

Were there other US allies other than Russia Involved with Kosovo? Well, we have for the past couple of decades in a “politically correct movement” sort of way purported that the Chinese were a strong ally of the United States. Of course you may remember how mad China got when we supposedly accidentally bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, Yugoslavia during our 1999 US led NATO invasion. I don’t personally know of any involvement of the Chinese with the Bosnian or Croatian wars against Yugoslavia.. Other than supplying weapons through Pakistan to the Bosnians which has been staunchly denied by the Chinese and the US...go figure.

What about other countries Well, once again, I don’t personally know. However, it is a fact that there are always backburner allies and enemies in all offensive and defensive multinational military movements. So I am sure that if one investigated deeper he would find some others involved.

Was Israel involved in helping the Yugoslavians or Serbs? I don’t have any personal knowledge of that but the Israelis have there noses into everything so I wouldn’t be surprised.
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