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Old 10-12-2007, 10:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I think as a part of a holistic approach to self-protection we need to have contingencies for many threat types.

Threats can manifest themselves in many ways for instance it could be a self-defense situation against an armed hardened criminal, your car breaking down in the middle of nowhere, a public health crises, a natural disaster, or a terrorist attack among others such as a wilderness survival situation or a traumatic injury to you or a loved one, etc.

Where can you find the necessities for surviving one of these emergency situations? They should be with you because you are prepared.

In an earlier thread I talked about EDC or everyday carry today I want to talk about the “Bougout kit”.

Bugging out or bugging in for that matter is a matter of simple survival gear and supplies and the knowledge to use them. A bugout may happen in situations of weather related events such as what happened in Katrina or it maybe a wild fire or an earthquake or some other form of natural or manmade disaster.

Considerations:

Is it just you or do you have family (kids, elderly, pets) to take care of?

Can you be ready and out the door in 15 minutes?

Do you have at least two escape plans (short range & long range) in place? :

Bugin- Bugging in may occur during a Pandemic or economic collapse. Are you prepared for both short and long term considerations regarding food, water, medical supplies, etc? Do you have enough essential supplies and how connected are you to the grid? You may have to go for a while without electricity, running water, or sewage disposal.

In this discussion I will talk about short term supplies needed to bug out. Basically a short term supply list should give you all the essentials to survive for at least 72 hours in harsh environments.

Here is what I have finally settled on as to my personal bugout kit

Bugout kit

1. Small backpack (day pack).
2. 200 feet of Para cord
3. Assorted sizes of bungee cords
4. 3 ways to make fire (example- lighter, storm proof matches, magnesium striker)
5. Fire starter (example cotton balls soaked in Vaseline kept in a film canister)
6. 1 compass
7. Maps (current maps for the area you are in or intend to be in).
8. 1 large utility knife w/sharpening stone
9. 1 multipurpose tool
10. 1 flash light with extra batteries
11. 1 broad brimmed hat
12. 1 pr. wool socks
13. 1 change of underwear
14. 1 skull cap
15. 1 pr. of gloves
16. 1. non cotton T-shirt
17. 1 emergency blanket
18. 1. light weight emergency sleeping bag
19. Poncho
20. Small first aid kit
21. MREs for thee days (72hrs)
22. 2 extra magazines for firearms
23. 2 two way radios (with extra batteries)
24. Tent stakes (good for building poncho shelters)
25. 1 canister/canteen (for water)
26. Aqua tabs (iodine tablets for H2O purification)
27. Small sewing kit
28. Fishing line with hooks
29. Signal mirror
30. Duct tape
31. Sunscreen
32. Garbage bags (2)
33. Toilet paper
34. hand sanitizer (like purel)

Here is an example of what a bugout kit may look like:
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Many folks in the Gulf coast were FUBARd when Hurricane Katrina hit (many other Hurricanes too). I lived through three….one In Florida, one in Jamaica, and one in Virginia. People always wait until the last minute to get supplies. Many stores are literally shelfless (nothing left on the shelves)….water, batteries, canned food, etc, etc all gone and people go without such supplies. Some folks think ahead and store these items and cycle through them if long periods of time go between disasters.

Where I live there are threats of wildfires we have bad ones every 3-4 years but we get them every year. I do a lot of driving and I have used my emergency kits on many occasions to help out stranded drivers whose cars have broken down or have gotten stranded in snow storms. I have used them in the wilderness when my Jeep has broken down miles from nowhere without another sole around (and the cell phone had no signal).

All I am talking about is being prepared.

Other consideration for bugging out is having a place to bugout too. Someone who bugs out without a predetermined destination is a refugee, generally speaking refugees aren’t treated very well.

You may only have to bugout across town but you may have to bugout to another city or even to another state. For instance my in-laws live across town if we had need to leave our home for what ever the reason (fire, flooding, mold, etc) we could take up temporary residences with them. If that isn’t practical under the circumstances I have a cabin out in the woods that is my family’s primary bugout point. I have several friends and family members that will use it too for emergencies…I keep all sorts of supplies stocked out there. If I had to go further away my backup bugout point is with friends in Idaho where my business partner lives.

Self-protection is multilayered- you have different mutually supporting skill sets, tools, equipment, and strategies. Self-defense is just one component, bugging out or bugging in which comes under the term disaster preparedness is another, so is outdoor skills, communications, and medical skills. I think self-protection goes beyond simple kickboxing and stick fighting.

Stuff to think about.
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I finally almost got to use my fire extinguisher that I keep in my car!

I was driving home from work at 6:30 and see a car in flames. I park my vehicle, call 911, get my fire extinguisher, spray it while crossing the street to see how far 6 feet is, walk towards the car and am about to put out this fire when some dude says he's a volunteer firefighter. So I give him my extinguisher and then the cops come, are out of their vehicles and tell him he's not allowed to put out the fire as it might explode... Then some dude with an EMT shirt on comes out with the same extinguisher and they let HIM use it. WTF. Anyway I was still a bit adrenalized so I hung around, waiting to see if the car explodes when the firefighters show up. It didn't. Anyway, the "volunteer firefighter" then tells me he's been hiding from paparazzi because he's a runway model...and then I realize he is no firefighter nor model but just a compulsive liar. What are the chances of meeting a compulsive liar and seeing a car on fire all in the same ten-minute span? Just curious. And also, the cops that yelled at me told me that apparently there was nobody in the car and this would've been different if someone was in it--but how the hell am I supposed to tell if there's somebody in it when all I see is smoke and shit??

Anyway, just a story about almost using my fire extinguisher.

Oh, and I keep all kinds of survival gear in my car...extra water, tarp, fire starters, a knife, blankets, first aid kit, flashlight, small shovel, you name it.
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Oh, and I keep all kinds of survival gear in my car...extra water, tarp, fire starters, a knife, blankets, first aid kit, flashlight, small shovel, you name it.
You must be some sort of insane survivalist government conspiracist or something.

Anyway, That’s great. It is always advisable to have some tools or supplies you can use in-case of an unforseen emergency.

Have you thought about routes out of the city if you needed to evacuate under time constraint?

My folks and several brothers and sisters have cabins up on the Mogollon 1-2 hours drive NE of Phoenix. But if there is a mass exodus from the city I doubt they would make it out because the routes are few and far between and the highways out will likely be nothing more than parking lots.

I have a sister who has a cabin near Oracle which might be a better bet.

But anyway this stuff should be thought about before hand. You never know if or when a terrorist might target one of the AFBs near where you live or some other target….or some other disaster for that matter.
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LOL. Nobody even knows about all the supplies I keep in the trunk of my car, but if they do see it they just think it's camping stuff...which it is, actually...

I haven't thought about evac too much yet... maybe go to Mexico.
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At the disgust of the seemingly majority here I am thinking about writing up a series of various self-protection strategies. I think the posts we have on privacy can be considered a part of this. I’ll do one on ditch medicine, desert survival (for us folks who live in the west), I’ll do a cold whether one too.

Treelizard I know you have some quasi-expertise in some of these areas and your input will be much appreciated.
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At the disgust of the seemingly majority here I am thinking about writing up a series of various self-protection strategies. I think the posts we have on privacy can be considered a part of this. I’ll do one on ditch medicine, desert survival (for us folks who live in the west), I’ll do a cold whether one too.

Treelizard I know you have some quasi-expertise in some of these areas and your input will be much appreciated.
I think your posts are very interesting and for me informative ,thank you.
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Sounds like something I may need to read... ever been to Utah?
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