reiki healing

[LittleDemon]

please can people give me as much information as they can that they know of as to knowledge of reiki healing messages would be greatly appreciated psoted on my message board web site:

http://groups.msn.com/EmmaSelfDefense/_whatsnew.msnw


Thank you

Keep the Faith

Emma .J. Pringle aka Little Demon or Em,

[Thai Bri]

Well, its nonsense.

Will that do for starters?

[Mulan]

(dun wanna register at new board )

As far as I know, Reiki focuses on the human paractitioner becoming a clear channel for universal energies - not their personal energy - to flow through them, particularly to their hands and into the person they are trying to heal. You should not feel drained after the process, since you would not be using your own energy. The idea is that while you might not know what energy the person needs, the universe does know, and will most efficiently harmonize the person's energy field back to its healthy state.

[Mulan]

Originally Posted by HandtoHand

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[Mulan]

Originally Posted by HandtoHand

You actually believe that shit?

Yup. Various forms of energy healing has been practiced by countless people across the world over the millenia. You think it suddenly loses credence now? I believe in a more holistic approach to healing... one that heals the whole person, not just their physical body. If you don't believe that, that's fine by me. Nobody's telling you to.

[Mulan]

Originally Posted by HandtoHand

Are you famaliar with placebo? If you're body's got a major problem see a doctor, if your mind's got a searious problem go see a shrink. But why get heeled if there isnt a problem.

Yes, I am familiar with the placebo. But it's funny you should bring it up, since placebo actually demonstrates the mind-body link, and the innate ability of self-healing. If a placebo can be so effective (in certain cases), and it's only a subconscious/suggestive form of self-healing, imagine what genuine conscious directed will can do. Reiki isn't directed personal will, it directs energy from the cosmos instead of using your own, but I'm talking about energy healing in general.

"In the West we do not have a measurable definition of health. There is no medical text book which defines the state of health. There is no monitoring process for when, and how much, we are healthy. We only know when we are unhealthy, because then somethign is wrong. The working definiton of health in Western medicine is when you are not ill... In China, this whole proposition is reversed. They simply turn it around. When someone is ill they ask the simple question 'Why is this person not healthy?'" (Wong Kiew Kit, The Complete Book of Tai Chi Chuan)

I don't mean to contrast the West with China, just modern "Western" medicine with pretty much every other medicine in the world at any point in history. You probably know that healing somebody by just treating the physical body makes for a much slower and uncertain recovery than treating somebody holistically. Western hospitals are increasingly paying more attention to studies that show how a person's environment and attitude can significantly affect recovery. It has also been shown that people who are prayed for (by loved ones of any faith) recover faster and smoother than people who are not. Medical history abounds with isolated cases of seemingly miraculous recoveries they can not explain. There was a boy that beat his uncurable cancer by concentrating on visualizing tiny battleships in his bloodstream which zapped cancer cells.

Basically, there is more going on in both maintaining and recovering health than the physical body alone. China has been at the forefront of researching the mind-body link of their traditional medicines (efficiency of acupuncture has already been improved with this research), and more and more Western doctors are starting to pay attention. We are steadily progressing into a time when the human being will be treated as a harmonious whole, not as fragmented parts (mind, body, emotions, etc) that have nothing to do with each other. Mental problems breed physical problems, physical problems breed mental ones... and traditional medicine of every culture on Earth would trace both back to the spiritual foundations by which these are nourished. Is it spirit? Is it science? I'd say both. But if this innate force can be tapped and utilized on a mass scale, the results would be phenomenal. Only time will tell. *shrug*

[LittleDemon]

I Didn't realise my interest into Reiki healing would cause such input and different views of opinions on the subject.
I have just got back from yorkshire so sorry i haven't got back to you on all your replies.
I guess it's something you either believe in or not i suppose.

[Mulan]

Originally Posted by HandtoHand

Postitive thinking and placebo cure some things and other's it cant. It all depends on the severity, pearson's mind, and physical condidion.

Positive thinking and placebo is a very subconscious healing method. It is not the intense focus and conscious energy exertion of true energy healing. You say it depends on the "severity, person's mind, and physical condition"; I say it depends on how well you are able to to access this dormant ability. Systematic ways of develping this ability exist, but few humans today practice them, so the majority are just taking a shot in the dark - and still getting it right at times. I see the placebo and positive thinking is just the tip of the iceberg of what tapping the potential of the mind-body link can do... to bring the miraculous recoveries of the select few (such as that boy with cancer) to the masses.

Now, I don't think there's anything "miraculous" about it. If science truly devotes itself to the unbiased study of the mind-body link (as scientists in China and Japan are doing), it can delve into a frontier of exploration that has been common knowledge to humans throughout the millenia. However, this process can exist with or without scientific verification. Science can only hope to understand it, and perhaps make it more readily available and efficient, such as the case with acupuncture. And you don't necessarily treat things with just "positive thinking." As I said, it is a holistic approach that deals with mind, body, emotions, and spirit as a whole. Traditional internal energy techniques were supplemented with herbs which we now know to have theraputic qualities.

[Mulan]

Originally Posted by HandtoHand

Okay hear's and example; You've been stabbed in the subclavian artery you only got 2 seconds before you black out and 1&1/2 more before you die. It doesnt matter how much energy you can channel you're going to die in a few seconds anyways.

Granted the figures i provided differ depending on body size, gender, physical fitness and otehr factors but its general.

Well yes. Energy healing is a gradual and progressive thing just like Western healing (which also wouldn't be able to do much in this case). Of course, were you a gandmaster Chi Kung practitioner and weren't caught off-guard, you would've been able to repel the knife, lol. I would say that it is essentially possible to heal yourself in the case you provided, but I doubt anybody currently alive on Earth is anywhere near that skill level (ie: Jesus? ).

Explanatory edit: because holistic healing asks not "why is this person sick?" but "why is this person not healthy?", it concentrates more on prevention of disease (read: maintaining of health) rather than extreme hypothetical scenarios.

[Thai Bri]

Mulan - that sounds so wonderful....... it really must be bollox!

[bratvas]

Hi! Just some info… I’m a practicing massage therapist with over 15 years of experience. In that time I saw a countless number of reiki practitioners, chi healers & others so called psychics. I’m very sorry to report, that 98.9 % of them are FAKE. The rest 1.1% can do unbelievable things. Just the fact that ANYBODY can get a diploma stating that he/she achieved rank of reiki Masters in 2 two days seminars should tell you something!!!!For proponents of reiki: Name reiki practitioners who healed bone fracture after10 (15, 20) secessions? Treated stomacular ulcers? Got rid of headache syndrome? At list reduced durations & acuteness of asthma attacks? Not in general terms” I heard…” Rreal facts, please. I did all that times after times using traditional western & Russian massage techniques. Do I call myself reiki master? While oriental medicine has great value, do not think of it as ultimate medicine. You should know that oriental medicine has a very vague notion of anatomy & physiology, as well as clinical diagnostics. I laugh hard when reiki master tells patient-You got liver- liver what??? Everyone got liver. Be ware of fraud.

[Mulan]

Originally Posted by HandtoHand

This is actually pretty funny, you can get a stab in the subclavian artrey from either the front or back, and no matter how tough you are you can be killed. Navy SEALs are exceptionally tough and well trained, but occasionally the do die in operations. Besides i've never heard of Chi Kung but it sound like a load of you know what.

Well yah, if you get stabbed, you get killed. But if you look at demonstrations of Chi Kung, they can withstand hundreds of pounds of pressure on their bodies, bend metal spears with the soft tissue of their throat, and walk into a sword pointed at them without it penetrating. They can't do it just plain anytime, it requires intense concentration... but nevertheless they can do it, and doing it does not require physical conditioning. The external demonstrations are for anyone to see. You can say it's a load of you know what, but have you personally witnessed these demonstrations? Like with anything else... sure some are a hoax, but some aren't. I'm sure there's a perfectly good explanation for it if people try to study it, but that explanation won't take away from the fact that these people can do these things.

[Mulan]

Originally Posted by bratvas

In that time I saw a countless number of reiki practitioners, chi healers & others so called psychics. I’m very sorry to report, that 98.9 % of them are FAKE. The rest 1.1% can do unbelievable things.

I couldn't agree with that more! That is the case because stuff like this is still in the stage of being exploited and watered down by the masses simply because it's trendy and occult. If people took it seriously and studied it as a science and with science, we would see the quality of the therapy go up.

A lady in my Tai Chi Chuan class had damaged her shoulder in a car accident and had to get an artificial bone put in. Normally one has to go to physical thereapy sessions for months after an operation like that, but she only went once, and the doctor told her to just keep doing Tai Chi Chuan because it was doing her a lot more good than conventional physical therapy.

[Thai Bri]

If you're determined to believe in something, no one can stop you.

You'll be telling us about aliens next.

[Mulan]

Originally Posted by Thai Bri

If you're determined to believe in something, no one can stop you.

You'll be telling us about aliens next.

If you're determined to not believe something, no one can stop you either. The difference is, I don't go out of my way to diss other people's people's worldviews (unless they dis mine first or try to impose their views on me). LittleDemon asked a question about Reiki, and I offered what I knew. Neither you nor HandtoHand had any knowledge to offer about Reiki, but felt the need to trash it anyway, and then provoke a debate after somebody actually replied with relevant information. So no, nobody's telling you to believe anything, and it doesn't really affect me wither or not you believe in Reiki, Chi Kung, aliens, or Navy seals. I, for one, find the accumulating mass of mind-body link studies quite convincing, and think it's worth science looking into as something that could potentially revolutionize conventional medicine and improve quality of life.