MT: What makes a good self defense class for women?

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What makes a good self defense class for women? By Lisa - Sat, 28 Apr 2007 23:53:14 GMT

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What proponents in class make up a good self defense class for women? What are the necessities needed to be taught that will help women the most and hopefully help them in a dangerous situation?

I have seen and heard of some pretty sad crap being taught out there.

Instructors what do you teach?
Ladies what do you want to walk away knowing?


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[ciscodog]

eys, nose , throat, groin, use knees , use nails, use elbows, simple techniques that are easy to remember and train on, enough to stun or stop the attacker and give you a chance to run away. Down ,dirty, and quick.

[Little Apple]

At the very least: scream, thrash, run. %80 of women who make noise and put up a fight get away from their attacker.

[GranFire]

Originally Posted by Little Apple

At the very least: scream, thrash, run. %80 of women who make noise and put up a fight get away from their attacker.

And making noise can be the toughest part....

[treelizard]

lots of guys to beat up

[Red Rum]

When I teach women, I show them what works and what doesn't work.

What most people don't understand is that guys will be fuelled on adrenaline, drugs, alcohol when they go on the attack and pinches, stamps on the foot, knees to the balls etc hardly work at all.

A good grappling/clinchwork system from BJJ/Wing Chun often allows women to regain control if they are pinned to the floor or grabbed.

If a women knows how to use all her bodyweight she can easily fend off even the biggest opponents. Sensitive areas such as the eyes, throat, groin and ears are okay but are often hard to find during an aggressive attack

Treelizard has also put a very good one liner on here which sums up the best part of female training - practice hard on male training partners who will make it difficult for you

[treelizard]

Originally Posted by Red Rum

If a women knows how to use all her bodyweight she can easily fend off even the biggest opponents.

That's a dangerous exaggeration.

[Red Rum]

Originally Posted by treelizard

That's a dangerous exaggeration.

Not at all. Not many people can utilize ALL of their bodyweight. A lot of people think they can, but they can't.

If you learn how to sum up all your bodyweight into a strike, that attacker will be going down. Take it from me - I'm 25 stone, six foot three and I have been dropped a few times by women in training and they .

If you take a woman who is six stone in weight and teach her to strike properly, she will be formidable in any arena. If you have ever been hit with six stone of power then you know that it bloody hurts especially if it is to the centre line. And that is one strike. When I train women, we are striking twenty times in a matter of seconds

It isn't a dangerous exaggeration - only dangerous if you misconceive what I am talking about.

[treelizard]

I wouldn't even say that a man using all his bodyweight can easily fend off a much bigger man (who might also be using all of his bodyweight).

There are weight classes in MMA, BJJ, etc. for a reason.

[GranFire]

Originally Posted by treelizard

I wouldn't even say that a man using all his bodyweight can easily fend off a much bigger man (who might also be using all of his bodyweight).

There are weight classes in MMA, BJJ, etc. for a reason.

Still there are rules in organized matches...you don't go all out because both fighters want to live to fight another match...


I believe it goes to the heart of the matter - having read the article on grappling in the last Black Belt issue (I think it's May, but I have to go back on this one)

I know i jump around in my thoughts a lot...but anyhow...

We as women are taught from little on to be nice, don't fight, be quiet., do girly stuff. In a Self Defense situation this works against us. You need to be loud, agressive and fierce, with a will to hurt.

So, to be affective, we have to learn to be loud, use all we have...

Beating up a bunch of guys in class does not really help, ideally they are our friends, and I for one do not intend to hurt my friends...though....as statistics have shown, most women are attached by somebody in their inner circle, husband/Boyfriend, friends family...not the boogy man in the dark alley...


And to be effective, you need a back of tricks, not just one. Kicking and punching...and ground escapes...use of a weapon - other than gun...or defense from it, and a sound knowledge of the weak points of the human body...

[shaolin-warrior]

all this is real good dialog and it has a definite benefit, but in your mixed bag of tricks add a heightened sense of awareness. This poor guy in the video post had no idea that this could happen until it actually did. This could be anyone and anywhere. It gives us all something to think about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlP9-8f5YpE
He doesn't get a chance to defend himself or fight back.

[GranFire]

WEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL


If you don't keep an eye on a shady character like that.....

[treelizard]

http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/C...h&1st2secs.mov

[Tant01]

Domestic violence seems to be a primary cause of trauma. Educating yourself about the nature of abusive relationships and ways to avoid falling into that pattern of behavior would be good.

Something about that proverbial "ounce" of prevention Vs. the pound of "cure"? LOL Stomp that victim mindset into a puddle of goo, then stomp that puddle dry!

Press on...

[Red Rum]

Originally Posted by treelizard

I wouldn't even say that a man using all his bodyweight can easily fend off a much bigger man (who might also be using all of his bodyweight).

There are weight classes in MMA, BJJ, etc. for a reason.

You are missing the point....
Any person who hits with more than six stone of power is going to hurt you.
Once you get above that kind of power it doesn't really matter.
Six stone of power will take your head of, as would 20 stone of power.

The only difference is that before, the 20 stone guy was still using that kind of power. Normally it would level the ground, but now you have a smaller, more manouverable person hitting with the same power.

I would favour the smaller person

Everytime I 'fight' my master who is a third of my bodyweight, he destroys me with a couple of punches, or out grapples me.
Power is overrated. And this is coming from a 25 stone guy who's arms are about the size of most people's legs.