Anti-Abduction for kids

**DJColdfusion** · 05-07-2008, 04:11 PM

I already posted this in the Urban Combatives area but I thought some of you might have a little more insight.

I know this isn't exactly a selfdefense for kids forum but I have been working on the content and format for an anti-abduction seminar for kids, for almost 2 years now, and I'm getting to a point where I want to finalize the organization. It would really help me, and I’d greatly appreciate it if , anyone who might be a parent, teacher, cop, or work with kids could answer the following question.

In your opinion, what is the #1 issue that kids need to be aware of, or the #1 skill they need to possess to survive an attempted abduction?

**l0rca** · 05-08-2008, 12:53 PM

I think a combination of knowing the ins and outs of their entire neighborhood (including people's doors they could run to, places of social traffic, etc.,) and a xenophobia of strangers, strange cars, or anything generally out of the ordinary.

When I was growing up (in Philadelphia) I was lucky enough to belong to a big Irish family, with Aunts' houses on the shortest way home from school, and many of my family's friends in alternative routes. I was always told to avoid strangers and if I felt worried to move quickly towards a house where I knew people were home. I was also told to knock on random strangers doors, if I was ever in a situation where I felt I needed a grown-up around to deal with another grown-up.

**GranFire** · 05-08-2008, 01:00 PM

Check the BSA manual for the cub scouts, for the bobcat batch...

main skill? be smart...Adults don't need help from kids, they must ask adults for direction or to locate lost pets. (and yet the good kiddies still go with a stranger looking for the poor puppy...)

If you are on the way with a bike, hold on to it, scream bloody murder....I think 'you are not my parent' is the key....

Survive an abduction? different kettle of fish...

**Tant01** · 05-08-2008, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by DJColdfusion

I already posted this in the Urban Combatives area but I thought some of you might have a little more insight.

I know this isn't exactly a selfdefense for kids forum but I have been working on the content and format for an anti-abduction seminar for kids, for almost 2 years now, and I'm getting to a point where I want to finalize the organization. It would really help me, and I’d greatly appreciate it if , anyone who might be a parent, teacher, cop, or work with kids could answer the following question.

In your opinion, what is the #1 issue that kids need to be aware of, or the #1 skill they need to possess to survive an attempted abduction?

Hey DJ,

One of my e-buddies (Ron K) has a child abduction prevention workshop and a message board on the PSDTC if you'd like to take a peek?

Just a thought.

As a parent I want my kids to be smart enough to know not to be misled by predators and "bait" as I call it.

And, if they are physically assaulted or scooped up by anyone, to fight, bite, scream and kick. My kids will go down fighting if I have anything to do with it... And I do!

Can't say enough about parents being the PRIMARY GUARDIAN of their own kids.

Protect your assets.

**shaolin-warrior** · 05-16-2008, 09:26 PM

The most important phrase a child can yell is " HELP! HELP! THIS IS NOT MY PARENT!"
We see kids fussing in grocery stores all the time with mom or dad pulling them from the checkouts kicking and screaming. When was the last time you asked the child if he needed help? never? Me either.

-S.W.-

**Little Apple** · 05-17-2008, 03:32 AM

I would agree with what's been said here, especially the bit about teaching your children to be aggressive in their own defense. I've put on children's self defense work-shops before, and aside from teaching them to be smart and play it safe with strangers etc, I also always have a part where the adult instructors attempt to "Kidnap" the kids. If they fight back and scream and run, they live. If they don't, they go to the "dead square." for 10 minutes.

I know it sounds gruesome to adults, who understand the implications, but honestly I've never had a kid be traumatized by it, lol. It's really just a more useful version of the "I'm going to get you!" game you would play with a 3 year old. (Though the age range was usually 9-14) They kind of love it actually, and by the end they all live. You'd be surprised how hard it is to hang on to a 10 year old that's honestly willing to hurt you!

**shaolin-warrior** · 05-20-2008, 06:57 AM

just a side note........I have an 18 yr. old I'm looking to put up for abduction

**Voltage** · 05-20-2008, 09:58 PM

Is she hot?

**shaolin-warrior** · 05-21-2008, 01:07 AM

No,
She's a he.......but he's b$%chy

**DJColdfusion** · 05-22-2008, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by shaolin-warrior

just a side note........I have an 18 yr. old I'm looking to put up for abduction

Holy crap that's funny.

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I really appreciate the feedback guys. I think the biggest areas that I will be focusing on are:

The Stranger Danger Myth
Most common lures used by child predators
When the attempted abduction is in public, doing everything possible to remain at location #1 (where the abduction originates)

**KirkhamsEbooks.** · 06-19-2008, 01:35 AM

As I walk around with my son, soon to be nine, I point out safety issues to him. I make sure he understands there's bad people that might try to take him away. I go over what to do with him and all the what ifs I can think of just not too many at once

Open van doors
strangers lying to him
hitting back
Playing Hee yaa with dad ( Teaching Your Child Self-Defense When Your Child Doesn't Want to Learn Self-Defense )

My son uderstands there's bad people. More importantly we lead by example. Using cross walks
staying away from dangerous places and pointing out what we're doing to our son

It potenially saved his life once his first day of kindergarden. The school also found out not to mess with an overprotective father with pr skills

Monkey See Monkey Do - Training Your Child by Kirkham

Rick