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Old 08-10-2004, 01:05 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Haven't posted here in a long time...nor am I online much anymore with work scheduling, training, etc.

I wanted to clear confusion about the "rape fantasy" thing once again.

A vast majority of people (believe it or not) do not have a workable understanding or definition of rape. "Rape" fantasy and "rape" scenario are illusions and should not be called such.

Anytime (and I mean Anytime) someone "wants" "wishes" or "asks" for "rape" role-playing, "rape" fantasy, or "rape" scenario, etc. this person is using the wrong word to describe their fantasy.

Rape can only be defined as truly unwanted intercourse. It has nothing to do (repeat has nothing to do) with "pretending to resist," "domination stuff," "rough sex," etc.

The confusion is because of the word "rape fantasy" (women use that word too and it's equally moronic for them).
You are using a phrase that makes absolutely no sense, is completely misrepresented, and should be called something else.

Lots of people experiment with rough sex, BD games, etc. This has absolutely nothing to do with rape unless the motivations behind it are violent, unwanted, and/or unconsentual.

"rape fantasies" where people "fantasize" about raping people unwillingly I feel does has something to do with real "rape." But that's another thread.

I don't think I can make it any clearer than that.

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chill out dude.

if someone gets a kick about role-playing that they are being raped, i say let them be... and do all you can to make that someone "happy."

many of us here, i hope, have played some sort of war-game as a child. something like "cowboys and inidians." well, surely we know that as kids we can neither be cowboys nor indians. we don't herd cattle and we can't reverse engineer our past (short as that may be when we were kids) and will that we were born into a clan of native american indians.

but we play the game anyway. why? because it's fantasy. call me moronic (if you saw me in the gym you would call me exactly that ) for pointing this out but at the very least grant me this -- i know what "rape" means; and i know that when i use the word "rape fantasy" the meaning of the word "rape" deviates from the conventional and must be taken in context.

i write for a living, JHC!!!

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So does this mean that a woman who fantasizes about a stranger coming up to them and forcing his intentions upon her, really just wants to have rough consensual sex with the just about every guy she lays eyes upon?
oh, a less scientific dissertation on the existence of a "rape cortex." jk
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chill out dude.

if someone gets a kick about role-playing that they are being raped, i say let them be... and do all you can to make that someone "happy."

many of us here, i hope, have played some sort of war-game as a child. something like "cowboys and inidians." well, surely we know that as kids we can neither be cowboys nor indians. we don't herd cattle and we can't reverse engineer our past (short as that may be when we were kids) and will that we were born into a clan of native american indians.

but we play the game anyway. why? because it's fantasy. call me moronic (if you saw me in the gym you would call me exactly that ) for pointing this out but at the very least grant me this -- i know what "rape" means; and i know that when i use the word "rape fantasy" the meaning of the word "rape" deviates from the conventional and must be taken in context.

i write for a living, JHC!!!

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