bruce lee v muhammid ali

[Tom Yum]

Re: another correction again

Originally posted by sherwinc


you know....

human anatomy, is compose of a very hard with a very soft.....

Why post here when you could be writing romance novels with that skill?

[Thai Bri]

This guy has to be candidate for WANKER OF THE YEAR!

Hey. Dim wit. All those Chinese super death touch styles you talk about. Guess who said they were crap?

BRUCE LEE, THATS WHO! HAW HAW HAW!

[darrianation]

Re: correction again

Originally posted by sherwinc
Ali was a very good boxer who has proven himself in the ring time after time after time. What has Bruce proven? When was the last fight we saw Bruce Lee in? What was his record?

Chinese Martial Arts cannot put into the ring cause all of its alphabets thrown to opponents are only rewarded with fouls and disqualification of illegal blows, and in the tournament especially in boxing fights will Muhammed Ali is more on refferee stop or time breaking when you hit your opponent illegally.

Death touch or no death touch Ali is one tough Motha' f***er. Bruce isn't this super mystical Supreme Being you think he is. He is every bit as human as you and I and he has no super powers. Hay and neither do the SHAOLIN.


You dont know anything about that highest level of KungFu? the Death Touch and the Iron Palm? Even Chum Kiu of Wing Chun you dont know? its the Iron Bridge Hand to hit the Boh Lay Tau (Glass Head).

So you see? Even Muhammed Ali's Eyes is so soft than his Adam's Apple to be hit by that 3 combinations of WingChun's Chain Punches or the Bill Jee. You dont know what bill jee means? then how can this Muhammed Ali beat Bruce Lee?

about the SWORD?

you know, when you engange in a fight, everything that we can held into our hand is considered a weapon, kungfu is a very dirty art of self-offense, the more that you are not familiar with its alphabets the more you will loose. As a very dirty system of KungFu, they use grounds or wall or the tree's at your back, for you to seem imposible to do it and that is what we want for, expecting a hit which is imposible for him. A stick that you can pick beside's them when they fight is considered an extension of a KungFu Systems.

How can this Muhammed Ali beats Bruce Lee if he knows only Boxing?

Then why in the hell aren't these guys dominating the world of NHB?

You say I don't understand Kung-Fu but I think you are brainwashed and you give it far to much credit.

[cboog]

Originally posted by IPON
Lee never fought professionally, I don't know why everyone keeps comparing him to professional fighters.


Forget Ali, what about foreman or liston in thier prime. And Bri is 100% correct to compare a welterweight with a heavy weight.


Bruce was asked this question and answered Ali would beat him in the ring with boxing rules and he [Lee] would beat Ali with no rules

I read that too

Ali was fast as hell, took punches from some of the hardest hitters of all time (Foreman, Liston and Frazier), in boxing match only way bruce is winning is by points hitting and moving and not getting hit, which is hard as hell to do in a boxing match

[Rudolphuss]

Is this Sherwin guy for real? Maybe he's just trolling.

[sherwinc]

another question

So you mean muhammed ali is only for ring fights with more on boxing rules

while...

bruce lee will win in a street fights with no rules?

as what i know there are only 6 fighting alphabets in boxing
1. cross
2. hook
3. straight
4. jab
5.roundhouse
6. uppercut

ITS AN ELEMENTARY BASIC ALPHABETS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ONLY SIX ALPHABETS IN BOXING AND NOTHING ELSE, YOU COULD NOT EXPAND YOUR KNOWLEDGE IN SCIENTIFIC FIGHTING BY USING EITHER 1 TO 6 REPETITION OF BOXING ALPHABETS....

while bruce lee's wingchun there are 108 wingchun scientific alphabets, and bruce lee also knows taichi chuan in a wu systems of taichi. and he knows lo han or arhats boxing kungfu, and a wushu too. Too plenty of fighting alphabets to choose, not to mention jeet kune do too.

ITS AN COLLEGE DEGREE OF ALPHABETS TO CHOOSE, TOO PLENTY OF OPTION, TOO PLENTY OF FIGHTING ALPHABETS THAT MOST OF THEM BOXING LIKE MUHAMMED ALI ARE NOT FAMILIAR OF THOSE FIGHTING ALPHABETS.

now, if you are not familiar to a type of attack that the opponent attacks you, how could you counter it?

you know, in chinese martial arts (kungfu) even if you achieve to reach three lives you could not still finish completing to learn the a single system of kungfu that's the reason why kungfu is for lifetime practice. its in the blood.

now, why kungfu is not acceptable to ringfights? it is because in the ringfights theres many rules, now, if you apple a WILD TIGER PUSHES THE MOUNTAIN (meng hu tui shan) then the referree will only shout the word "FOUL!!!!!" all the kungfu attacking types are all foul, so in short, before the fight begins the kungfu fighter is disqualified for fouls. then how can you apply a mantis hook to his adam's apple if you wear a glob? its a common sense. thats the reason why kungfu is not acceptable in a ring fight. that's the reason why bruce lee is not acceptable to a ringfight and he never fight because of disqualification.

another important thing is...

in boxing, karate, tae kwon do, etc.... ring fights - they are all reach up to twelve rounds...

while in kungfu, you finish your opponent before 60 seconds. if you reach 120seconds and still you did not finish your opponent are you a good fighter?

[darrianation]

So you mean muhammed ali is only for ring fights with more on boxing rules

while...

bruce lee will win in a street fights with no rules?

as what i know there are only 6 fighting alphabets in boxing
1. cross
2. hook
3. straight
4. jab
5.roundhouse
6. uppercut

ITS AN ELEMENTARY BASIC ALPHABETS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ONLY SIX ALPHABETS IN BOXING AND NOTHING ELSE, YOU COULD NOT EXPAND YOUR KNOWLEDGE IN SCIENTIFIC FIGHTING BY USING EITHER 1 TO 6 REPETITION OF BOXING ALPHABETS....

while bruce lee's wingchun there are 108 wingchun scientific alphabets, and bruce lee also knows taichi chuan in a wu systems of taichi. and he knows lo han or arhats boxing kungfu, and a wushu too. Too plenty of fighting alphabets to choose, not to mention jeet kune do too.

ITS AN COLLEGE DEGREE OF ALPHABETS TO CHOOSE, TOO PLENTY OF OPTION, TOO PLENTY OF FIGHTING ALPHABETS THAT MOST OF THEM BOXING LIKE MUHAMMED ALI ARE NOT FAMILIAR OF THOSE FIGHTING ALPHABETS.

now, if you are not familiar to a type of attack that the opponent attacks you, how could you counter it?

you know, in chinese martial arts (kungfu) even if you achieve to reach three lives you could not still finish completing to learn the a single system of kungfu that's the reason why kungfu is for lifetime practice. its in the blood.

now, why kungfu is not acceptable to ringfights? it is because in the ringfights theres many rules, now, if you apple a WILD TIGER PUSHES THE MOUNTAIN (meng hu tui shan) then the referree will only shout the word "FOUL!!!!!" all the kungfu attacking types are all foul, so in short, before the fight begins the kungfu fighter is disqualified for fouls. then how can you apply a mantis hook to his adam's apple if you wear a glob? its a common sense. thats the reason why kungfu is not acceptable in a ring fight. that's the reason why bruce lee is not acceptable to a ringfight and he never fight because of disqualification.

another important thing is...

in boxing, karate, tae kwon do, etc.... ring fights - they are all reach up to twelve rounds...

while in kungfu, you finish your opponent before 60 seconds. if you reach 120seconds and still you did not finish your opponent are you a good fighter?

More isn't always better.

Bruce was an incredible athlete, fast and skilled. Muhammad Ali was an incredible athlete and, fast for his size and skilled. Fewer techniques, simple and easy to apply are much better than hundreds of techniques that are fancy and complicated.

Bruce would probably win on points but one good right from Ali and its over.

[S.Anucha]

True. What does Bruce weigh now? About 15 lbs?

hahahaha! damn man!

[S.Anucha]

pls try to research more depth kungfu systems, research the following:

1. Dim Mak (poison hand) death touch
2. Iron Palm
3. Scientific hand alphabets of WingChun
4. The IronForeArm of Shaolin Boxing
5. The Force of TaiChi (Chi)
6. Etc., more, more, more

Note:

If Muhammed Ali doesnt know any of these,.... how could he beat Bruce Lee?

you forgot to mention :

7. Lightening bolt farting
8. The summoning of warrior spirits
9. being able to turn into the Hulk
10. Being so quick that only Mr.Smith from Matrix could have a chance with him

[El Mastero]

I read the first post and haven't bothered reading all replies so if this has been said then my bad.

Muhammad Ali was very skilled in boxing. He was a champ and pound for pound one of the best boxers in the world. Bruce Lee was a great martial artists who developed all of his skills to near perfection. He practiced different ranges of fighting. Ali was an expert in one range and Bruce a very experience MA'ist in many ranges. If Bruce used his strengths to stay out of punching range and took Ali out with his kicks, sweeps etc. Then perhaps Lee would have won. If he would have made the mistake of entering Ali's range then it would have been night, night for Bruce.

[ryanhall]

I swear to God that I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says 'alphabets.'

Swerwinc,

Speaking of college degrees, you could use one in common sense. This has gotten ridiculous.

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