Help Fairtex 8' Pole Bag!?!?

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My problem I just got back from a long tour of duty and moved into an appartment, so I can't use a hanging bag . I have to use a freestand bag which I have never used before and don't want to but have to.

So what are my options. Plain in simple what is the best freestand bag out there for a Thai Boxer?

The Fairtex 8' pole bags looks awsome.

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Does anyone know if Fairtex sells these? I didn't see them in there online store(USA). Does the thailand store carry these?

Also how are these built, are the polls cemented or bolted to the floor or do they have weighted bases like freestanding bags?

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Then there is the Ringside fs heavy bag.



At least it's leather and does have a thai attachment for the bottom.(picture in next post)

The problem I have with these bags is the bottom weighted base seems too big and would get in the way of your leading foot. I would think you would be constantly bummping into it. Anyone that uses a freestanding bag do you have this problem?

Another problem would be how do you do clinch knee strike drills, I would definitly think the base would get in your way then.

And there is the wavemaster xxl which would be perfect if it was leather(it's not) and the base was the same diameter as the bag(it's not).

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Sorry about all the posts, it would only allow one picture per a post.

Any help or suggestion is appreciated.

Thanks.

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I started thinking.

It looks like they just built it themselves.

The pole is probably cemented or bolted to the floor.

They probably just took an empty heavy bag cut a hole in the bottom the same size as the pole.

Slid bag over pole and filled it up.

The problem I have is I can't bolt the pole to the floor so how about...

8' pole and weld a plate on the bottom.

Stick pole with welded plate on bottom inside bag cover.

Slid four(??) 45 lb weights over the pole(weights will be at the bottom of the pole inside the bag.

Fill the bag.

Paint the outside of the bag at the bottom where the weights are RED so you know not to kick this part. Or you could kick this part.

You could also wrap the weights with foam I guess.

What do you guys think.

Is (4) 45lb weights enough?

[William]

I talked to James Wong at Fairtex a number of times a few years ago about the pole bags. They bolt a metal plate to the floor and attach the pole to that. The thing about the pole bag is that you'll have to fill it yourself. They don't sell them filled (or at least didn't). They use fabric remnents to fill their bags. If you have any garment factories near you you could try that.
See the "50lb punching bag" post for my thoughts/experience with the Wavemaster.

William

PS: Fairtex gear is first rate. BTW, there is an art to packing those things.

[William]

Here is a thought.
I don't know the proper name for these, contractors use them to brace heavy support beams. It's a metal pole about 4 - 5 inches in diameter (that's actually one threaded pole inside of another) with a metal plate welded to each end. You turn the two pieces in opposite directions to lengthen or shorten it. Stand it up in your room and extend it until it touches the ceiling, get it tight enough to hold---but not too tight to damage the sheet rock. I'd probably place a 3' x 3' piece of 3/4" plywood between the metal plate and the ceiling to spread the force out and prevent marking the ceiling. Something like that might work. Your neighbors will probably still hear it....BUT WHO CARES, TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN!!!!
Or another thought.
Use two of these poles (just like described above) to hold up a 8' foot long 4"x4" on each end up against the ceiling. Put and eye bolt in the center and hang a 6' Fairtex heavy bag from that. If it's high enough, use the bungy method I described in the "50lb punching bag" post.

Good luck.

William

(Don't get me started about the stick dummy)

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Doh.



I don't know why I didn't see the pole bag on faitex's site yesterday, but I found it today... thanks.

I think the support brace(whatever they call them) will work. Thanks William I will try this, if it doesn't work I'll figure something out.

So what is the best way to pack them?

[William]

Packing the Pole Bag.

What you will need:

*About 10 garbage cans full of fabric remnants.
*Carpet Scraps
*A short 2x4, baseball bat, or other improvised packing device.
*A short friend (to get into the bag).
*A ladder to help your short friend get out when it's done.

Slip the bag over the pole and then put the pole in place. Start putting the
fabric remnants (with some carpet scraps mixed in) in small layers. Have
your short friend pack each layer (esp. the outer edges) down really good
before adding another layer. It's very important to get the outer layer
packed very tight. If you don't, the bag will try to lean over after a short
period of use. Mixing in the carpet scraps seems to help the bag hold its
integrity (keep it from settling too much). It will settle a bit after about
a month of use. Go ahead and add another 10-15lbs of fabric remnants.

Thanks to James and Alex at Fairtex. I'm just passing on their info.

William

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Thanks William for getting the info from James and Alex, I really appreciate it.

How big or small is the carpet scraps suppose to be?

We are talking ordinary floor carpet right.

Thanks again.

[William]

Not a problom 0100, glad to help out anyone who wants to train.

I wouldn't use carpet scraps any bigger than about 4"x4". And yes it's regular floor carpeting.

Have fun and let me know how it turns out.

William

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thanks for the info. William.