Sounds about right Tom. For a skilled middle or light heavyweight though fighting a big brawler with no gas wouldn't be too hard in a strict boxing match.
I think you mentioned in a previous post you would like to see him face Tank Abbott?? That would be interesting and I'd give it to Tank yet even he's overrated as well. It would be a good match up.
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Honestly I think a good middleweight or light heavyweight could take him in a boxing match. Here's my prediction: You can insert any 'good' pro-middlweight's name into the match, say Robin Reid from the UK.Originally posted by WildWest. View PostHe maybe tough and a big hitter and has trained but how good is he really?? He wouldn't last 2 seconds against a half decent heavyweight boxer IMHO.
The boxer sticks hard jabs into Kimbo, throughout round 1.
Kimbo eats most of them and is lucky enough to tie up with the boxer...late in the round, trying to land a big body hook, with the boxer getting jarred by it but shakes it off.
Round 2 more of the same. The boxer picks off Kimbo with jabs, as Kimbo tries to time a big counter. Unfortunately, the quick moving boxer is able to circle away from Kimbo's power hand each time. Kimbo starts moving slower; his face is swelling a little from the jabs. The boxer starts using his right hand, landing solidly into Kimbo.
Round 3. Same as above. Kimbo gets frustrated and charges the boxer like a bull, tries to rough him up and lands a few shots on the inside, but the ref separates them. The boxer continues to out maneuver Kimbo, figuring out his movment and making him run into his shots.
Round 4. The damage is visible on Kimbo, but being the big guy he is, he's still on his feet. Kimbo is exhausted and eats some big shots from the boxer, one which sends him slowly back into the ropes. The boxer closes and starts teeing off 7 to 9 punch combinations, with Kimbo trying hard to land a big counter. Kimbo's tired and hurt, but being the bigger and stronger man he's able to stay on his feet.
Ref stops the fight.
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Anything could happen, right? I modelled this fight from both the Jones Jr./Ruiz fight and the Holmes/Butterbean fights, where the higher skilled, more athletic fighter is able to play his agame against the larger, stronger one.Last edited by Tom Yum; 02-27-2007, 11:27 PM.
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How good is Kimbo really?? The clips of him that I've seen are against some big lads but none of them are what you would say good skilled fighters. So we get no true measurement there.
He loses to a guy, who if assuming what I've read about him is true, has had a losing fight in the UFC but I haven't found any other records of his fights against anyone of real notoriety. Yet he has 4-1-0 amatuer record, so can we assume he is not quite up to lower level MMA competition either?? I think so.
He maybe tough and a big hitter and has trained but how good is he really?? He wouldn't last 2 seconds against a half decent heavyweight boxer IMHO.
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yeah. he went to prison for 10 years for raping someone.Originally posted by fozzy40 View Postwho served time for rape? Kimbo?
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Isnt this amazing, internet, makes u fames.... Puted in Kimbo and wikipedia had the answer lol
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if your role model is a guy who served 10 years in prison for rape, then yeah maybe.Originally posted by The_Judo_Jibboo View Postare you insinuating that i have to pick a new role-model!?
how about carlton from fresh prince?
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are you insinuating that i have to pick a new role-model!?Originally posted by DickHardman View Posthis crew is comprised of a pimp, a couple pornographers, a drug dealer, 3 wiggers, the milf hunter, 2 random black guys and a cameraman.
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his crew is comprised of a pimp, a couple pornographers, a drug dealer, 3 wiggers, the milf hunter, 2 random black guys and a cameraman.Originally posted by Tom Yum View PostI don't think his crew really pays attention to the rules in general.
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the man kimbo is fighting has the worst case of invisible lat syndrome i have ever witnessed. he should get that checked out.
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True. Kimbo shot in for a single-leg first and gannon sprawled just enough to defend and sink in a guilotine. There was a second guilotine later in the fight, that took the wind out of kimbo's wings.Originally posted by DJColdfusion View PostThe choke definitely helped but the rules stated that there would be no "ground fighting" and did not mention submissions. Also, notice that it was Kimbo that actually went for the takedowns and it was Kimbo who initiated the fight's only GNP session . . . even though it was against the rules his crew insisted upon.
All the BS about Gannon breaking the rules were exactly that. You can't blame Gannon because Kimbo's crew apparently didn't bother to read the rules that they agreed to.
I'm not blaming Gannon at all, DJ. He's earned his right. I think he's bad ass for taking it to Kimbo and beating him, especially since it was bare knuckle boxing.
Kimbo gave Gannon a big shove as well and tends to try and punch when a guy is down. I don't think his crew really pays attention to the rules in general.Last edited by Tom Yum; 01-22-2007, 03:26 PM.
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I didn't think Kimbo was a trained boxer. You can just watch him and tell that. He's a tough guy who, by the way he got his ass beat when fighting that kickboxer/mma guy, is tough as long as people won't fight back.Originally posted by DickHardman View Postkimbo isnt a trained boxer of martial artist though, he is just a tough guy who was in prison for 10 years and had to fight alot.
If you notice in all of his videos, no one is fighting back. They may throw some pitty pat slaps and close their eyes and swing, but theyt aren't fighting like their ass depended on it.
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kimbo isnt a trained boxer of martial artist though, he is just a tough guy who was in prison for 10 years and had to fight alot.Originally posted by Uke View PostAll Kimbo seems to throw is haymakers and hooks. This goes to show that the gusy he fights have little skill at all. Even if the afro guy covered up Kimbo would have had a hard time hurting him. A decent jab, some lateral foot movement and timing Kimbo's hooks and that kid would have a had a damn good chance.
But in truth, it wasn't skill that made the difference there. It was heart.
Good clip though, 7r14ngL3Ch0k3.
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The choke definitely helped but the rules stated that there would be no "ground fighting" and did not mention submissions. Also, notice that it was Kimbo that actually went for the takedowns and it was Kimbo who initiated the fight's only GNP session . . . even though it was against the rules his crew insisted upon.Originally posted by Tom Yum View PostKimbo lost to Gannon, whom was in a amateur MMA circuit. The rules of the fight were bare knuckle boxing. Gannon sank a guillotine, (even though illegal according to the rules, Kimbo's corner did not understand the choke) and that pretty much took the wind out of Kimbo, giving him the remainder of the fight.
All the BS about Gannon breaking the rules were exactly that. You can't blame Gannon because Kimbo's crew apparently didn't bother to read the rules that they agreed to.
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