Honest opinion of this clip will be highly appreciated.

[lorenzodamarith]

Look at it this way, if those moves were workable, then why don't the MMA guys use them or, better still, why don't the Kali guys enter MMA and use them?

Fighting becomes much too complex. Find his head and then beat the snot out of it. The fancy arm fencing is so contrived it would actually put you at a disadvantage when some lunatic with no knowledge of it comes flying at you with his head, hands, elbows, knees, feet and teeth.

But that's only my view.

hello,

agreed. generally, it is the simple stuff that is most effective.

thanks

[lorenzodamarith]

hello,

well, a long time ago, they did fight with two weapons... quite often. a lot of the movements are quite intricate. the are predecated by the presence of weapons. however, one look at a dog brothers gathering and you will realize that most of it isn't used on a "day to day" basis.

really, most of the techniques only exist to provide you with a split second to get your blade into the other guy.

now, considering the framework mentioned, weapon use, split second... a lot of the techniques do work, once. that is, it is not normally possible to engage in full combat in "trapping" or "crashing" range because of the vast number of variables. human reaction time precludes this type of activity.

likewise, in an mma situation, techniques that are designed for split second effect are not likely to work against systems designed for the "long haul" of mma combat. again, using the dog brothers gatherings as evidence of this, you would see that once the weapons are removed from consideration, the techniques used revert to those used in mma (or at least are similar to those).

the basic idea that exists behind training for thousands of hours in a weapons based system is this: if you have literally half a second to finish business, you need to train those split second variables. this activity is better suited to ambush/suckerpunch style combat (assassination perhaps).

it would be pointless to act or react if you had no idea how to set your attack up. mma type combat is usually not lethal in the first 3 seconds, so technique and counter tend to become more protracted activities.

still, going back to the original reason for this post.... "what do you think of this", yields a result that look something like this.

they appear to be beginners (or a class for beginners). also, with the bodies so upright, it is likely this was not a pure kali/silat class. fma's are footwork intensive (whereas this foot work was simplistic. very.). the instructor had not demonstrated any knowledge of how techniques and counters flow together (this is due to the isolated way the techniques were demonstrated).

altogether, not the best stuff, but most classes are longer than one or two minutes.

thanks.

[Thai Bri]

That's very open minded of you, so well done for that.

As regards stick fighting my knowledge is limited to this - hold one end, and hit the guy with the other. Hardly masterful, but I guess it works. As for duelling with two sticks each? When would that ever happen for real? Still, the guy is obviously very skilled at what he does.

I was not a fan of the unarmed stuff. It is full of little intricacies that work brilliantly in class, but not so briulliantly when someone really is trying to cave your skull in. I have never ever seen those types of move pulled off in a real fight - only ever in demos where both people are trained in the same stuff.

Look at it this way, if those moves were workable, then why don't the MMA guys use them or, better still, why don't the Kali guys enter MMA and use them?

Fighting becomes much too complex. Find his head and then beat the snot out of it. The fancy arm fencing is so contrived it would actually put you at a disadvantage when some lunatic with no knowledge of it comes flying at you with his head, hands, elbows, knees, feet and teeth.

But that's only my view.

[Polaristo]

Just curious because very often we got blind to our own way so it is always good to hear other peoples opinions too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A03b4dGicr0