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had the same reaction of shock when they announced the winner.......i totally agree a rematch is in order. Shogun did a great job and won.
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I thought Lyoto Machida was going to take this one but he lost that fight. Shogun should have been the winner. I just couldnt believe the decision. I hope they give him an immediate rematch because he deserves it.
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I agree with that, he landed more and more strongly, got Machida's leg a bit hurt too. The strategy was good too, but in title fights that go to close decision the champion tends to win.
The unanimous decision was too much, at least a split decision to make it look credible!
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Shogun got robbed! I was rooting for Machida too, but Shogun just dominated. Bad decision.
Jake
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I know it's mma but it's only standup training, just to give something to the press. Interesting to see the trainer moving like Machida:
YouTube - Mauricio Shogun Open Workout
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Sieh
Its funny you should bring up your bullshit again. I was just learning an old 90 year old muay master and talking history. Maybe you should come here and do that some time it will certainly shut your mouth. Also ran into a german fighter from thaiboxin gym germany at the stadium last week who gave me tremendous insight into the scene there as well opinions from those who fight have about the pahuyuth cult members. Very enlightening. Learning is great. Try it some time.
But to answer your dumbass questions:
Thanks to Pahuyuth Thailand is free and you have Muay Thai, please keep this in mind when judging. Since Muay Thai has its origin in Pahuyuth, as well as Muay Boran etc, how do you judge Pahuyuth this way??? I don't get it.
Yes, i understand this FOR THE TWO HUNDREDTH GODDAMN TIME> Its you that doesnt understand. I have studied the various other systems and try to understand them as well. I train. You dont train. Big difference.OK, got it? Stop preaching when you dont know anything.
Thanks to Pahuyuth Thailand is free and you have Muay Thai, please keep this in mind when judging. Since Muay Thai has its origin in Pahuyuth, as well as Muay Boran etc, how do you judge Pahuyuth this way??? I don't get it.
Thanks to Pahuyuth in the past which has nothing to do with you or sunthus recreating the style in modern times remember that. I KNOW WHERE MUAY THAI gets it origins from. I understand and continue to train in thailand with the various masters. When you come to train in thailand, you too will come to understand this. Am i being frightfully clear so we dont continue to drag the same conversation out over these boards over and over again.
Its YOU who has no understanding or functional ability and i have find it offensive when you "relate" to people who go out and sweat, spill blood and fight for a living to pahuyuth germany has produced no fighters so please refrain anymore 'alluding' to fighting or understanding 'fighting'.
Respect is a two street. Try having some and you might one day get it in return. Every single post of yours is redundant and hollow. Stop clogging every thread with the same nonsense.
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Thanks to Pahuyuth Thailand is free and you have Muay Thai, please keep this in mind when judging. Since Muay Thai has its origin in Pahuyuth, as well as Muay Boran etc, how do you judge Pahuyuth this way??? I don't get it.Originally posted by george stando View PostPahuyuth has nothing to do with the kind of sparring shown here. Are you saying you are even at the level of a shogun because that is insane? I dont care for shogun but theres a huge difference with the level of fighting moving and someone pretending to fight out of no experience whatsoever. Pahuyuth never produced a fighter of any caliber. real fighters and their progressions and sparring have little to do with people who dont fight nor produce fighters nor produce top notch instructors and work in illusion. Pahuyuth is for magicians looking to win by illusion.
So do I. I speak about their actions, nothing else. Is this really a superior league as you indicate, with this kind of basics, I am not sure about, but I don't want to stress this one. At least it appears not only to me that these guys don't apply basics of MT, do you agree?If you are reading carefully, people are just critiquing his actions, nobody is saying they are in the same league as him unless they are fighting at that level.
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Pahuyuth has nothing to do with the kind of sparring shown here. Are you saying you are even at the level of a shogun because that is insane? I dont care for shogun but theres a huge difference with the level of fighting moving and someone pretending to fight out of no experience whatsoever. Pahuyuth never produced a fighter of any caliber. real fighters and their progressions and sparring have little to do with people who dont fight nor produce fighters nor produce top notch instructors and work in illusion. Pahuyuth is for magicians looking to win by illusion.
If you are reading carefully, people are just critiquing his actions, nobody is saying they are in the same league as him unless they are fighting at that level.
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I am glad you and all others recognize this kind of sparring. This is the kind of sparring shown in the clips of Pahuyuth . This is exactly what it is about.Originally posted by fire cobra View PostIf people make mistakes over and over in sparring then they will make them in Fighting just the same(or worse) so all mistakes should be corrected in sparring by your coach, your training partner(if he is at a level to do so), or and byyourself,
this is the value of playing in sparring so you learn and correct mistakes until you make less and less,high level fighters will find even the smallest of mistakes,obviously you can get away with more mistakes against lesser skilled fighters but why would you want to?.
We should be building something that will sail in the strongest winds without getting blown apart,making basic mistakes like turning the back after a kick (without throwing a technique) falling down when your leg is caught etc are things I wouldnt expect UFC contenders etc to make.
And i already began to think may nobody knows it, but it is well known as I can see. I am glad to see this.
What a great base to start from
Sieh
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If people make mistakes over and over in sparring then they will make them in Fighting just the same(or worse) so all mistakes should be corrected in sparring by your coach, your training partner(if he is at a level to do so), or and byyourself,
this is the value of playing in sparring so you learn and correct mistakes until you make less and less,high level fighters will find even the smallest of mistakes,obviously you can get away with more mistakes against lesser skilled fighters but why would you want to?.
We should be building something that will sail in the strongest winds without getting blown apart,making basic mistakes like turning the back after a kick (without throwing a technique) falling down when your leg is caught etc are things I wouldnt expect UFC contenders etc to make.
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If people make mistakes over and over in sparring then they will make them in Fighting just the same(or worse) so all mistakes should be corrected in sparring by your coach, your training partner(if he is at a level to do so), or and byyourself,
this is the value of playing in sparring so you learn and correct mistakes until you make less and less,high level fighters will find even the smallest of mistakes,obviously you can get away with more mistakes against lesser skilled fighters but why would you want to?.
We should be building something that will sail in the strongest winds without getting blown apart,making basic mistakes like turning the back after a kick (without throwing a technique) falling down when your leg is caught etc are things I wouldnt exepect UFC contenders etc to make.
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