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  • szorn
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    Originally posted by treelizard View Post
    I don't know anybody that never goes to places alone at night.
    The worse thing about some women's self-defense classes (or even well-meaning people giving SD advice) is that they expect you to act like you're three and never go anywhere late at night, or walk by yourself, or leave your car, or ever have a drink, and on and on and on. Totally unrealistic.
    That's a good point and one that I mentioned above- NEVER is a negative and limiting term. It limits how people live rather than empowering them to live safer. We can still provide the same safety tips but change the wording a little. How about this? Instead of saying "never go out alone" why not say "avoid going out alone if possible" or better yet "attempt to go out with friends and family when possible instead of going alone". However, it should be understood that these are only safety suggestions and it doesn't mean that people are being unsafe when they actually do go out alone. It's these types of limiting safety tips that actually cause women to avoid taking self-defense classes, because they think they are going to have to completely change their lives if they want to be safer.

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  • Garland
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    Originally posted by EmptyneSs View Post
    would you get on the chick in that video? this question is for you as well treelizard.
    I can honestly say...
















    I've done worse than that girl in the video. Who knows...that accent might be kinda hot if she was talking dirty.

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  • EmptyneSs
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    Originally posted by Garland View Post
    At least it's not Scottish women's self defense...


    would you get on the chick in that video? this question is for you as well treelizard.

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  • Garland
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    Originally posted by EmptyneSs View Post
    you dont know that.
    At least it's not Scottish women's self defense...


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  • Garland
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    Originally posted by EmptyneSs View Post
    you dont know that.

    Uh...no...I do. I believe that cross training sport arts (like muay thai and bjj and maybe judo) and a good RBSD program (like Tony Blauer's stuff, or something like what Demi Barbito is doing) is a damn good idea for women's self defense. Add a little Kali and some combative firearms training, and it's probably the most comprehensive thing you could do.

    I believe people should mix all their arts like a layer cake, you know...keep their ranges and weapons covered with the best techniques and tools available to them, as well as learn and maintain, and improvise strategies and avoidance techniques to learn to AVOID needing to use those tools, or how to better use those tools in a variety of scenarios that justify varying levels of agressive response...everything from calmly leaving the area and being watchful, up to a situation wherein killing the opponent by shooting or slicing them is the only option.


    MMMmmmmmmm cake. Uber killa death cake...



    with sprinkles.

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  • treelizard
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    Originally posted by Garland View Post
    Amen! Lizzy gets it!

    Treelizard da bombnizzle!
    Aw, shucks.

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  • EmptyneSs
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    Originally posted by Garland View Post
    Amen! Lizzy gets it!
    you dont know that.

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  • Garland
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    Amen! Lizzy gets it!

    Go figure...

    Treelizard da bombnizzle!

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  • treelizard
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    Instead of what? Why not both?

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  • EmptyneSs
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    Originally posted by treelizard View Post
    The worse thing about some women's self-defense classes (or even well-meaning people giving SD advice) is that they expect you to act like you're three and never go anywhere late at night, or walk by yourself, or leave your car, or ever have a drink, and on and on and on. Totally unrealistic.
    thats why you should train in a sport art instead.

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  • treelizard
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    Originally posted by EmptyneSs View Post
    this is exactly what i meant about needing to pay better attention.....
    The worse thing about some women's self-defense classes (or even well-meaning people giving SD advice) is that they expect you to act like you're three and never go anywhere late at night, or walk by yourself, or leave your car, or ever have a drink, and on and on and on. Totally unrealistic.

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  • EmptyneSs
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    Originally posted by treelizard View Post
    I don't know anybody that never goes to places alone at night.
    this is exactly what i meant about needing to pay better attention.....

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  • treelizard
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    Originally posted by EmptyneSs View Post
    you know, dont go places alone late at night, dont accept drinks from strangers, look through the peephole before opening the door, dont park in bad area, look both ways before crossing the street etc....
    I don't know anybody that never goes to places alone at night.

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  • EmptyneSs
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    Originally posted by Tom Yum View Post
    Through training and working out defense scenarios, we help women learn how to defend themselves.

    Part of that help takes place when they learn counter-offensive techniques and can do them under increasing pressure.
    i think "sport arts" are a great way for women(and men) to develope tenacity and physical/mental toughness and get over that feeling of helplessnesss and being a victim. these arts can help people regain some control over themselves through pushing themselves constantly and striving to get better. boxing, judo, jiu jitsu, muay thai are all great, competitve arts that will require people to train hard, think , react under pressure, and be confident of themselves. i beleive these arts can help women more than the average self defense seminars and classes.

    most of the awareness stuff that is in self defense seminars and classes is common sense(at least it was to me), and women need to just pay attention to that info mroe cause its all stuff they have heard a million times before. you know, dont go places alone late at night, dont accept drinks from strangers, look through the peephole before opening the door, dont park in bad area, look both ways before crossing the street etc....

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  • Tom Yum
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    Originally posted by EmptyneSs View Post
    inmop, we socialize women to believe they are helpless and weak. and its worked, many women have truly internalized this belief of being helpless and weak, and thats the most important thing they need to get over if they truly want to defend themselves.

    victims often get victimized repeatedly because predators can smell victims like sharks smell blood and they will keep coming after you as long as you keep believing you are helpless.

    -hoduken
    Through training and working out defense scenarios, we help women learn how to defend themselves.

    Part of that help takes place when they learn counter-offensive techniques and can do them under increasing pressure.

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